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Message 16 of 1639 (754108)
03-24-2015 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by herebedragons
02-19-2015 12:25 PM


This is one of the things about our political system that I see as really messed up.
I agree this is pretty messed up, but the most totally fucked up part is after putting up with the stupidity of primaries and finally a national election, we have the electoral count that chooses the president instead of total votes.
No wonder only idiots and narcissist psychotics run.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 18 of 1639 (754123)
03-24-2015 2:53 PM
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03-24-2015 2:13 PM


I disagree.

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Message 135 of 1639 (759984)
06-16-2015 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Diomedes
06-16-2015 1:01 PM


Re: The Donald is in!
Maybe Jon Stewart will stay......

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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Message 175 of 1639 (760305)
06-19-2015 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by mikechell
06-19-2015 2:30 PM


Re: accusations and reality
mikechell writes:
After 7 years with the worst president in history ... you can't keep blaming previous administrations.
You do realize that it was Bush/Cheney who fucked the world economy and stole $4TRILLION from the American people in 2 wars....right?
And then you have the balls to call Obama the worst president?
You're the conspiracy freak, right?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 193 of 1639 (762781)
07-16-2015 12:55 AM


Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
http://www.rawstory.com/...atic-plot-to-make-gop-look-stupid

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 195 of 1639 (762790)
07-16-2015 10:51 AM
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07-16-2015 10:31 AM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
He doesn't make them look stupider, he's just funnier to watch. The GOP is already a clown car full of stupid. The line-up really is from the very bottom of the barrel of America when you consider intellect, education, honesty, integrity, compassion, empathy, and character.
They are an embarrassment to America and the human race.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 205 of 1639 (763516)
07-26-2015 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by marc9000
07-26-2015 11:55 AM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
I have watched Kasich since his career began and I disagree with his fundamental views on everything.
I'm just trying to find out how blindly partisan you are
I am partisan, but I am not blind.
I see exactly what these guys want to do to our country. I am ashamed that they represent such a large proportion of the population. If any of them could actually accomplish what they advocate, America is doomed.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 209 of 1639 (765357)
07-27-2015 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by marc9000
07-27-2015 7:42 PM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
What is your definition of "doomed"? Mine would be either of two major disasters; 1) a financial crash, far worse than any from the past, and/or 2) a terrorist attack or foreign military attack far worse than any from the past. Do you have fears other than those two things?
I don't fear a terrorist attack that much, although 9-11 did cause a pretty severe economic slump. I think the assholes that did it accomplished a large portion of their goal, which was to have us turn our security apparatus against ourselves out of fear.
No foreign power other than Japan has attact our homeland since the war of 1812 so that is not something I think will happen.
I think we will continue the economic and social slide into oligarchy that began under Reagan the Braindead. I think the ultra wealthy puppet masters of the GOP ultimatly want to bring back slavery. Poverty is a character flaw to them that can be remedied with slavery.
That's what I mean by doomed.
They are trying to dismantle our education system, and make sure no one can ever pull themselves out of poverty. They want to make sure women in our society have no control over their own lives or bodies (ABE: The same as a bunch of other assholes that they all claim to hate). They want to make sure poor people cannot vote. They want to make sure that there will be no pensions or social security or medicare. By the way, medicare should have been expanded to provide single payer medical coverage for everyone instead of the ACA. It has a 3% administration cost compared to 10-20 times more for private insurance.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : added a small note....noting the similarity between Gop assholes and Muslim assholes and how they treat women.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 231 of 1639 (765657)
08-03-2015 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by marc9000
07-29-2015 6:51 PM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
9-11-01 was an attack on our homeland.
It was not by another nation, just a bunch of nuts living in squalor in Afghanistan.
A lot of what happened during the 80's was the result of the actions of both houses of congress - Democrats. Reagan vetoed a lot of things, but not as many as he should have. His one phrase sums up a lot of things; "Government isn't the solution, government is the problem". That's the big problem we have today, bigger and bigger government causes more and more corruption (in both parties), and so many on the left think that more big government is the solution to past failed big government. And the political divide continues to grow.
Reaganomics and voodoo economics, trickle down, were all President Braindead's ideas and nothing trickled down, instead it was the biggest redistribution of wealth in history.....it was "gush-up economics".
When we hear republicans claim they want smaller government it is code for "we want to make government run just as crappy as is possible, so we can transfer as much as possible into our cronie's private hands." Once all the functions of government are privatized they can really fuck us, and continue the move back to a slave society.
That you don't see a brand new ballgame in threats to the U.S. mainland is amazing to me.
I do see a brand new ballgame of threats to the U. S. It is the Republicans and the Tea Party and the bible thumpers and the bigots and the people like you who support them while you spout crap about terrible big government.
Their ideas of liberty, limited government, and morality are NO DIFFERENT than those of the Republican candidates and presidents of 30 or 40 years ago.
They are not interested in liberty. They are doing everything they can to limit the liberties of everyone but the ultra rich and limiting any rules about how corporations should behave in a civilized society.
They absolutely do not want limited government. They just want to privatize it and squeeze every cent of profit that they can out of the former citizens.
Morality? The morality they practice is cutting the last safety lines for the elderly and for poor children. Denying health care to poor children, denying health care to women. They bitch about the innocents that died on 9-11 and then turn around and start a war that killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqis. Yeah, that is the highest example of moral behavior.
I was a teenager in the 1960's. When both Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King were shot, there was practically no mention of any type of gun control, from the Democrats OR the news madia. Back then, at least some Democrats respected the U.S. enough to not blame society in general every time an unfortunate violent act took place in a free society.
I was in high school when JFK was shot and as I remember there was a huge stink about the fact that Oswald bought a mail order rifle and there was an immediate call to stop that.
You know disagreeing with you does not mean we don't respect or love this nation. We want to learn from our mistakes and try to make this country better. We are honest enough to admit that we have made mistakes and we are ashamed and embarrassed and want to do better. You bunch have lied to yourselves for so long that you believe all the lies.
Confederate flags weren't targeted when King was shot.
And I ask, "Why not?" They should have been. I would bet that every single African American in this country wanted these symbols of bigotry and hatred and slavery torn down, especially from public property that they paid taxes to support. It is their country too.
Gay marriage wasn't even remotely considered when Carter was president.
So what? We can't have new ideas, new issues, new inequities that need to be addressed?
A $15 minimum wage wasn't even thought of during the Clinton administration. (even adjusted for inflation)
Again, so what? Our economy will never recover until money starts to circulate. That means people need to spend money, even if it is for the basic necessities of life, but they have to have money before they can spend it.
Do you really think that people who work 40 or more hours a week should not make enough to support themselves and their family?
Do you really think that CEOs who don't actually do any work really are worth millions or billions of dollars a year and that it is good for our economy for them to hoard their wealth so that it does not circulate through the economy?
Your dislike of science and scientists and people who want to raise the education level of the people who live here, so as a nation we can be self-reliant, and not have to fear everyone that does not live here, baffles me. Preparing ourselves and our children to cope with challenges we will face in the future seems like the only prudent course. The alternative is to be another has-been-nation, that failed because of false pride and refusal to work for a betterment of all.
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Edited by Tanypteryx, : spelling
Edited by Tanypteryx, : grammer

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 302 of 1639 (769517)
09-21-2015 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by Omnivorous
09-21-2015 7:28 PM


Re: Killer Klowns from Depraved Spaces
She can't maintain prominence without Trump's insults...so maybe a shared ticket? Lots of abusive relationships are like that.
Thanks a lot, you made ginger ale come out my nose and short out my keyboard.
Wow, wouldn't that be fun to watch? Way better than the McCain and Palin Show. They could make another fortune with a comedy reality show after they lose the election.
I think you are right, Lindsey is next. Christie and Huck are starting to look desperate to me also.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 320 of 1639 (770565)
10-07-2015 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 319 by ramoss
10-07-2015 11:03 PM


Maybe Trump will try and collect.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 336 of 1639 (770905)
10-15-2015 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by Dr Adequate
10-15-2015 12:12 PM


Re: Things Mike Huckabee Doesn't Know
Am I correct in thinking that "political correctness" is trying to be polite so people won't think you are an asshole?
I mean, that would make sense, because Mike Huckabee a fucked up, total, absolute, in caps, ASSHOLE.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 341 of 1639 (771342)
10-24-2015 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by AZPaul3
10-24-2015 6:29 PM


Which of the two would be best for the scientific community's goals?
Doesn't matter. The president can bully pulpit a scientific agenda all she wants but the action is in the congress. With the congressional majority party being republican science, from space exploration, stem cells, health and safety through vaccines and global warming, will all be given short shrift. And with the congressional majority party fragmented the term "do nothing congress" will take on new meaning in all aspects of legislative initiative not just science.
Until the republicans are run off the hill science and health care and budget and tax reform, and, and ... are dead issues.
The really sad thing is that the country that was the brightest chance for mankind and the whole planet blew out its own flame.
The U.S. is rapidly defining a new category of society below "third world country." A "fourth world country" is one that approached levels of science, technology, and societal freedoms that could have ended poverty, ignorance, bigotry and warfare, but instead turned and embraced poverty, ignorance, bigotry and warfare.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 370 of 1639 (771466)
10-26-2015 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 364 by Faith
10-26-2015 4:04 AM


No longer a moral people we're self-destructing. You'll be cheering as the ship goes down though.
In the message Message 341 that started your latest claims of "we're supposed to be a Christian, nation, blah, blah, blah......", I was doing the opposite of cheering.
Faith writes:
Message 346"My" doctrine used to be the foundation of this nation, it was the reason for our great success and prosperity and benevolence toward the rest of the world. It was in fact the inspiration for the liberties you now claim and impute to other sources while imputing their loss to me and my doctrines.
I have seen you write this a number of times before. It is total BS.
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it was the reason for our great success and prosperity and benevolence toward the rest of the world.
Tell that to the Native Americans, and all the others that were slaughtered to make America great. All the generations of slave labor that helped make America great. Our country, the United States of America, did a lot of bad shit to a lot of other people that stood in our way and it was cheered on by a lot of Christians.
For just a bit shy of 200 years you Christians shoved your religion down everyone's throat despite the Constitution. Finally, after WWII people started to realize that the Constitution was actually there to keep a majority from using the government that we all paid taxes to, from sponsoring or supporting a religion in tax-supported things like schools.
What the founders did not expect was that Christianity would dominate the workings of our government for 200 years.
What is destroying the greatness of our country is the Christians doing everything they can to impose their oppression on the rest of us. The republican fundamentalists are intentionally trying to destroy our government and impose god's laws (their psychotic version of god's laws) on the rest of us.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 431 of 1639 (773774)
12-08-2015 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 430 by RAZD
12-08-2015 4:28 PM


Re: Is Trump A Fascist?
... Trump is simply a racist populist, ...
Xenophobic jingoist egotist more than racist.
Xenophobic jingoist egotist + Super Asshole = Steaming Pile of Shit

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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