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Message 616 of 1639 (778155)
02-17-2016 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 611 by dronestar
02-17-2016 3:34 PM


Re: rinnnng, . . . rinnnng, . . . rinnng, . . .
And if I don't support her we let the Republican candidate win. What is the saying "cut of your nose ....

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 660 of 1639 (778207)
02-18-2016 9:15 AM
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02-17-2016 4:45 PM


Re: rinnnng, . . . rinnnng, . . . rinnng, . . .
Meant Cut off.
Cut off your nose to spite your face.
Yes, your inflammatory comments, photos and videos show how outraged you are. In a sense it is no different than the faux outrage we see from the right. You rail about these injustices but do not see that we need to get the ship to turn in order to make the changes. Hillary Clinton is not a great choice, but she is a good choice. SHe can be the instrument of a lot of good change for the people of the United States and people around the world. But alas, as everyone, she is far from perfect.
So if Hillary Clinton is the Dem nominee, will you protest her candidacy? Will you support the Republican candidate? Will you take your ball and go home?
Righteous indignation is well and good, but unless you can actually do something to effect the change it is no different than masturbation.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 682 of 1639 (778261)
02-18-2016 5:13 PM
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02-18-2016 4:33 PM


Re: Hillary, the sociopathic choice.
is not constructive against a willfully marble-headed individual.
Once the personal attacks start I stop reading.
Good day, Sir.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 722 of 1639 (778317)
02-19-2016 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 719 by Faith
02-19-2016 8:21 AM


Re: Trump On Torture
but you are NOT entitled to justify violating the immigration laws because YOU think they are immoral, against the people who disagree with you, or force your will on those who disagree with you, which is what the Left keeps doing, and justifies by morally condemning those who disagree just because they disagree.
And what do you think about the same-sex marriage?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 729 of 1639 (778328)
02-19-2016 10:19 AM


Faith's responses and arguments have solidified a few I have had for a while. Many of the people on the religious right do not follow the people they do because they embody or articulate the religious view they hold. The support for Donald Trump completely destroys this idea. They follow the people they do because they feel it gives them some sort of moral cover for the hate they have. Donald Trump's followers expose the hypocrisy and hate of the religious right movement. They can make all the high moral claims they want , but the tortured reasoning they use just continues to expose them for haters and hypocrites.
Faith is a prime example.
Edited by Theodoric, : Typo

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 730 of 1639 (778329)
02-19-2016 10:20 AM
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02-19-2016 8:58 AM


Re: Trump On Torture
How does your head not explode?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 732 of 1639 (778331)
02-19-2016 10:23 AM
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02-19-2016 10:21 AM


Re: Hillary, the sociopathic choice.
I didn't actually, specifically, call YOU "marble-headed." (I suspect guilty conscience is at work here.)
And the personal attacks continue, yet you wonder why you are not worth engaging.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 776 of 1639 (778394)
02-19-2016 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 741 by Tanypteryx
02-19-2016 12:33 PM


Re: Trump On Torture
I am not a sinner either.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 811 of 1639 (778443)
02-20-2016 8:32 AM
Reply to: Message 802 by Faith
02-20-2016 12:54 AM


Re: gay marriage travesty
Maybe you should start by presenting one fact. Then we will go from there.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 829 of 1639 (778474)
02-20-2016 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 821 by Faith
02-20-2016 10:54 AM


Re: Trump On Torture
What is it with you religious right wackaloons and the desire for martyrdom?
Well the answer is easy. There is no way to logically support your beliefs so if your martyr yourself at least you will have some sort of spiritual justification.
The amazing thing is that what you claim the government is going to do to you is exactly what you want done to people that don't hold your beliefs. The thing you and your ilk don't understand is that the other side has no desire to hurt or martyr you because of your beliefs. The projection is very disturbing. You will notice we only fight back when you try to impose your belief structure on others.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 834 of 1639 (778482)
02-20-2016 2:43 PM
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02-20-2016 2:20 PM


Re: Trump On Torture
There are laws against discrimination. The laws protect christians too.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 838 of 1639 (778487)
02-20-2016 3:42 PM
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02-20-2016 3:33 PM


Re: Nomination for PC post of the thread
So no evidence? Still stuck on assertions I see.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 843 of 1639 (778492)
02-20-2016 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 842 by Faith
02-20-2016 3:55 PM


Re: Trump On Torture
Please list the 5-6.
Also, any that were fined broke the law. In your words they are criminals. Ergo, they were punished.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 863 of 1639 (778520)
02-20-2016 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 862 by jar
02-20-2016 6:28 PM


Re: Nomination for PC post of the thread
As I said, they have found someone to help them justify their hate.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 887 of 1639 (778547)
02-21-2016 9:52 AM


Doonesbury nails it.
Click to embiggen.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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