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anglagard
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Message 1081 of 1639 (778973)
02-27-2016 6:57 PM


Two for One
In the unlikely event that Trump is elected, and the far less likely event he actually follows through on his campaign promises, there is a slight problem.
Remember Trump promised both waterboarding and worse, and also vowed to kill not only terrorists, but their families as well.
Should Trump actually try to implement these policies he will lose the support of the military. Believe it or not the US military is made up of a rough cross section of society and not of remorseless automatons as some B- grade movies would have it. I was in the military, I know whereof I speak.
But you don't have to take my word for it -- see this article and video.
(tried direct kink to video, nothing but error messages)
Skip to at around the 1:00 minute mark in video if pressed for time.
Do you know what happens when a national leader loses the support if the military? Ask those dictators and some elected presidents can tell you -- provided they are still alive.
Should Trump supporters achieve their goals, they may actually succeed in sort-of-electing the next two presidents -- Donald Trump and Provisional President General Joseph F. Dunford, Jr.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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jar
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Message 1082 of 1639 (778974)
02-27-2016 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1080 by Faith
02-27-2016 6:46 PM


Faith writes:
Islam shouldn't have the benefit of tax exempt status anyway, being the devil's own invention, nor any religion other than Christianity. Nor should the Ford, Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations which all financed the rewriting of textbooks for American schools back in the early part of the last century to brainwash everybody into accepting Communism. Which is why everybody at EvC is a socialist and you don't even know you're brainwashed.
If Islam loses it's tax exempt status because it is the devil's own invention then why should Christianity not also lose tax exempt status for being the devil's own invention?
Since Jesus was a Communist and Socialist should US Christians also be Communists and Socialists?
You do understand that the Communist Party USA is a valid organization and has been in the US since 1919? You do know that the Communist Party USA does not oppose religions, any religions.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Faith 
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Message 1083 of 1639 (778975)
02-27-2016 7:07 PM
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02-27-2016 7:03 PM


Spoken like the most brainwashed of the brainwashed. The only true thing you said is how long the Communist Party has been in the USA, doing its dirty work of subversion.
I pray against all this of course but prophecy is pretty clear where we're headed and it may be too late.

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jar
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Message 1084 of 1639 (778976)
02-27-2016 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1083 by Faith
02-27-2016 7:07 PM


maybe three questions were too difficult ...
so let's try just one at a time.
If Islam loses it's tax exempt status because it is the devil's own invention then why should Christianity not also lose tax exempt status for being the devil's own invention?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Theodoric
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Message 1085 of 1639 (778981)
02-27-2016 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1080 by Faith
02-27-2016 6:46 PM


So in other words you want to overthrow the Constitution and implement biblical law, christian sharia.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Faith 
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Message 1086 of 1639 (778982)
02-27-2016 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1085 by Theodoric
02-27-2016 8:51 PM


So in other words you want to overthrow the Constitution and implement biblical law, christian sharia.
Thought I already said what I want, and I suspect that even you with your PC-shackled mind understood it: to reinstate the Constitution as it was originally intended and in fact applied for the first century or so.

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Theodoric
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Message 1087 of 1639 (778984)
02-27-2016 10:21 PM
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02-27-2016 9:32 PM


That would not be true.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1088 of 1639 (778985)
02-27-2016 10:27 PM


Dems in South Carolina
We interrupt this thread for a important announcement of actual on-topic news.
In the South Carolina Primary:
Hillary 73.5%
Bernie 26.0%
The moderate and conservative democrats turned out quite heavily for Hillary leaving Bernie out in the cold.
Interesting to me that in the S. Car primaries there were a total of about 367,000 votes cast to the Dems and about 738,000 to the Reps.
Super Tuesday March 1:
Alabama
Alaska (Reps only)
Am Samoa
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Ex-patriots abroad (Dems only)
We now return you to your regular squabbling already in progress.
Edited by AZPaul3, : title
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Message 1089 of 1639 (778986)
02-27-2016 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1088 by AZPaul3
02-27-2016 10:27 PM


Re: Dems in South Carolina
The moderate and conservative democrats turned out quite heavily for Hillary leaving Bernie out in the cold.
Super Tuesday is dominated by states which seem more similar to South Carolina than they do to New Hampshire.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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AZPaul3
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Message 1090 of 1639 (778987)
02-27-2016 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1089 by NoNukes
02-27-2016 10:49 PM


Re: Dems in South Carolina
Super Tuesday is Hillary time.
On the other side it is also the time the entire country breathes a collective sigh of relief or collectively shits in its pants.
I'm buying shares in Kimberly-Clark.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 1091 of 1639 (778998)
02-28-2016 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1081 by anglagard
02-27-2016 6:57 PM


Re: Two for One
Should Trump actually try to implement these policies he will lose the support of the military. Believe it or not the US military is made up of a rough cross section of society and not of remorseless automatons as some B- grade movies would have it. I was in the military, I know whereof I speak.
IMHO he wold lose the support of most but not all of the military, and the remainder would carry out his orders. There's always somebody. John Yoo. General Buck Turgidson ;-).

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jar
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Message 1092 of 1639 (779003)
02-28-2016 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1091 by JonF
02-28-2016 8:57 AM


Re: Two for One
IMHO he wold lose the support of most but not all of the military, and the remainder would carry out his orders. There's always somebody. John Yoo. General Buck Turgidson ;-).
MacArthur, Patton, Eisenhower ...
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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NoNukes
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Message 1093 of 1639 (779007)
02-28-2016 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1091 by JonF
02-28-2016 8:57 AM


Re: Two for One
Most of these guys are talking trash about what they would or would not do with regard to pursuing military objectives. With the exception of the senators, none of these guys have any significant foreign policy experience of any kind. The governors in particular have less experience at foreign policy than did Palin because they cannot see any foreign countries from their house. And even the senators are arm chairing it when they talk about their military objectives.
The only support from the military that means anything are the opinions of the top generals. For the rest of the military, when they disagree, they have to vote with their feet by leaving the service, and they are generally easily replaced.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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RAZD
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Message 1094 of 1639 (779013)
02-28-2016 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1093 by NoNukes
02-28-2016 3:27 PM


McConnell will not support Trump to retain senate seats
The only support from the military that means anything are the opinions of the top generals. For the rest of the military, when they disagree, they have to vote with their feet by leaving the service, and they are generally easily replaced.
And some say they would not enact certain acts by Trump.
And now Mitch McConnell is saying
Mitch McConnell Promises Trump Will Be Rejected By His Own Party If Elected (VIDEO)
quote:
This stunning admission seems to coincide with recent reports from the New York Times, which suggest that McConnell’s telling other senators to run ads against Trump if they think he could hurt their election bids in November.
According to Republican senators who attended private lunches with McConnell, the Senate leader believes that Trump will lose badly in a general election going head-to-head with Hillary Clinton and that campaigning Senators should position themselves as conservative insurance policies should she win the White House.
Reports of the GOP’s preemptive rejection of Trump arrive after a Feb. 19 private luncheon involving Republican donors and governors in Washington where Karl Rove warned the attendees that Trump’s nomination may be inevitable at this point and that his candidacy could hurt other Republicans running for office in November.
There are also reports from those in attendance at a private presentation hosted by Charles and David Koch where the billionaire brothers portrayed Trump’s record as utterly unacceptable. The Koch brothers’ critique made some high profile donors reconsider donating out of fear that they would be making a losing bet.
Could it really happen that the GOP establishment will campaign against their party candidate because of the Frankenstein Monster they have created? Watch this space ...
and Panicking Mitch McConnell Says GOP Will Help Hillary Beat Trump If He Wins The Nomination
quote:
Things are getting truly desperate in conservative camps and the grim acceptance that this isn’t a bad dream and that Trump is almost surely going to win the nomination has begun to set in. It’s led to an odd plan. In a stunning report by the New York Times, Republican sources confirm that party leadership is planning to destroy Trump and give Hillary Clinton the win rather than let him have control of the GOP.
To rally depressed Republicans, McConnell has hatched an unthinkable tactical retreat: Let Hillary Clinton win and focus on maintaining control over the Senate.
Of course Mitch is more concerned about keeping the Senate Majority Leader position than with who is president -- and it would be so fun to make him a

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Message 1095 of 1639 (779014)
02-28-2016 4:47 PM


Unintended consequences ...
Amusingly Trump supporters now distrust Faux Noise Nutwerk as much as they distrust the "mainstream" media.
It certainly seems like things are imploding in regression-world.
LOL

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