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PaulK
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Message 1336 of 1639 (780438)
03-15-2016 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1333 by Faith
03-15-2016 11:30 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
That is a massive non-sequitur. That many Muslims are anti-Semites doesn't show that all anti-Semitism is Islamic. We know that is not the case.
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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vimesey
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Message 1337 of 1639 (780440)
03-15-2016 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1330 by Faith
03-15-2016 11:06 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
Unless the police release the ethnic identities of the perps there is unfortunately no evidence except the impressions of those who have been watching the events unfold over the last decade or so.
Well, that is hearsay evidence, but leaving that to one side, if we are going to look to the impressions of those watching events unfold, wouldn't it be the sensible thing to do, to look to the impressions of people who are directly watching the events - ie not media commentators from across the other side of the world ?
And if what we are looking to is hearsay evidence only, then surely we should treat it with skepticism, particularly if we know that the person providing it is interested in promoting a particular political agenda ?
France has its extreme right wing, but it has a huge number of voices who see life in an ethnically diverse country as nothing to raise even a mild Gallic eyebrow about.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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ringo
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Message 1338 of 1639 (780444)
03-15-2016 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1232 by Faith
03-14-2016 1:07 AM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
Faith writes:
Anyway, I do think Christians should be taking an active role in this.
Christians are taking an active role in sponsoring refugees. Locally, it's Catholic churches, Anglican churches, United churches, even Baptist churches.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1339 of 1639 (780447)
03-15-2016 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1330 by Faith
03-15-2016 11:06 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
Unless the police release the ethnic identities of the perps ...
What do you mean "release" it? There are arrest records and trials of those that are caught. If they don't specifically give their "ethnic identity", it would be perfectly possible to see if they're all called Muhammad and Ali and Abdul.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1340 of 1639 (780448)
03-15-2016 12:43 PM
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03-15-2016 11:34 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
That is a massive non-sequitur. That many Muslims are anti-Semites doesn't show that all anti-Semitism is Islamic. We know that is not the case.
The Koran itself is anti-Semitic, fer pete's sake. However, the Jews of France should be trusted on this one. They were doing just fine in France until the Muslims started terrorizing them.

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Faith 
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Message 1341 of 1639 (780449)
03-15-2016 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1339 by Dr Adequate
03-15-2016 12:24 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Well, somebody needs to collect that information.

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Faith 
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Message 1342 of 1639 (780450)
03-15-2016 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1337 by vimesey
03-15-2016 11:43 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
... particularly if we know that the person providing it is interested in promoting a particular political agenda ?
You mean such as trying to get people to notice that Islam wants to rule the world and hates all cultures but its own? THAT political agenda?
France has its extreme right wing, but it has a huge number of voices who see life in an ethnically diverse country as nothing to raise even a mild Gallic eyebrow about.
And as along as they keep their PC blindfold tightly wrapped under those Gallic eyebrows they don't have to face the fact that their ethnic diversity isn't the lovely mixture of cultures they'd like to believe it is, because one of them has no interest in mixing, it wants to dominate.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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ringo
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Message 1343 of 1639 (780453)
03-15-2016 12:57 PM
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03-15-2016 12:43 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Faith writes:
However, the Jews of France should be trusted on this one. They were doing just fine in France until the Muslims started terrorizing them.
Ever hear of the Dreyfuss Affair?

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PaulK
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Message 1344 of 1639 (780454)
03-15-2016 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1340 by Faith
03-15-2016 12:43 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
The Bible is anti-Semitic too.
And there are far-right hate groups in France, too.
https://www.rt.com/news/154644-nazi-party-france-hitler/
Neo-Nazis on the Rise in Europe, Jews | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com
And elsewhere in Europe
Neo-Nazi Activity On The Rise in Europe

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1345 of 1639 (780455)
03-15-2016 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1341 by Faith
03-15-2016 12:44 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Well, somebody needs to collect that information.
Let me know.

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Faith 
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Message 1346 of 1639 (780456)
03-15-2016 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1344 by PaulK
03-15-2016 12:58 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
The Koran tells its readers to kill Jews. The Bible is NOT anti-Semitic.

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Faith 
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Message 1347 of 1639 (780457)
03-15-2016 1:05 PM
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03-15-2016 12:57 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Doing fine RECENTLY for pete's sake, until the Muslim attacks started.

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Theodoric
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Message 1348 of 1639 (780458)
03-15-2016 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1330 by Faith
03-15-2016 11:06 AM


Re: Islam's agenda
I do want to produce evidence of the Islamic agenda to take the world by immigration and population growth though.
I don't give a rats ass about that. We have destroyed that whole thing time and time again.
I want to see evidence that moslems are burning hundreds of cars in France every day. Or at least evidence that moslems are responsible for most of the car torchings in France. Or at least jihad is behind the car torchings.
Put up or shut up, as the saying goes.
Just because you repeat a lie enough times does not make it not a lie.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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PaulK
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Message 1349 of 1639 (780459)
03-15-2016 1:10 PM
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03-15-2016 1:03 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
Evidence that the Koran tells Muslims to kill Jews, please. And do you deny that the Gospels claim that the Jews bear the guilt for Jesus' death ?

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Theodoric
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Message 1350 of 1639 (780462)
03-15-2016 1:17 PM
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03-15-2016 1:05 PM


Re: Islam's agenda
So you have never heard of Jean-Marie Le Pen and the National Front?
I won't bother posting links because you will ignore them anyway. Anti-semitism has a deep storied history in France. Even in recent history.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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