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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List')
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Message 107 of 1043 (608946)
03-15-2011 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Adminnemooseus
03-14-2011 7:54 PM


Re: Hey idiots
Moose, this latest suspension of Jar is just plain wrong.

You know I love you, Moose, so please take this as constructive.

No apologies are necessary. You did what you did for the reasons you stated.

But, in the grand tradition of all things human you erred. You were terribly wrong on this one.

An immediate lifting of the ban and a rescission of the suspension message is in order.


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AZPaul3
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Message 110 of 1043 (608955)
03-15-2011 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by crashfrog
03-15-2011 1:55 PM


Re: From the AZPaul3 files of "How to respond to criticisms of moderator behavior"
I'm not looking forward to your inevitable suspension, AZPaul, but you need to understand that's the consequence for respectfully, constructively criticizing moderator actions.

So be it.


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AZPaul3
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Message 135 of 1043 (620816)
06-21-2011 6:05 AM


Fidelity
Percy,

I bring up an issue that I feel needs the attention of the Head Master at this institution.

We have seen moderators go in and hide messages, delete messages and banner messages as “Off Topic.” This is entirely appropriate and your crew here does a good job of keeping this herd of cats from getting too far out into la-la land.

We have seen moderators go in and try to cleanup, linefeed and make paragraphs out of some of those awful solid pages of text that some submit in hope of, and fail in, communicating with other human beings. This is also a good thing and much appreciated.

Now, this is trivial in action but leads to a greater issue.

A moderator came into one of my posts and made a simple, trivial, capitalization change. Without my permission. Without my knowledge!

Why?

If this trivial change is within the moderators' purview then what other changes are the moderators free to make? Do the moderators have the freedom to make whatever changes they so choose to any post on the forum? Are there any limits? Is there some line drawn somewhere we do not know about?

This issue should never have come about.

First, EVC standards are intellectually well above the normal forum offerings on the Internet. As such this community has an expectation that members will, for the most part, make use of proper syntax and technical rules to facilitate communication. We also have the expectation of violating some rules for written and technical flexibility. Especially for those of us who understand the nuance involved and can recognize and make use of such devices.

Second, we have an expectation of propriety, that our posts (errors, warts and all) will be faithfully conveyed to the community as we intend.

Outside a required moderator action or the occasion of complete communication failure, our expectation is that no quarter should be given for any moderator to make any change to any of our messages at any time, ever!

Questions:

Are these expectations out of bounds? Do these moderator actions fit with your view of the community you have built here?

Edited by AZPaul3, : emphasis


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AZPaul3
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Message 138 of 1043 (620867)
06-21-2011 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Adminnemooseus
06-21-2011 10:29 AM


Re: Fidelity
It was a joke - a token "Moosing"

Yes, I understand that. And it was trivial, not substantive, in nature.

But that isn't the point, is it?

You do know what the point is, don't you Moose?

And I am surprised that you or anyone else even noticed.

You're laughing at your silly prank? Shoot yourself in the foot much?

You do not understand the gravity of the situation at all, do you?


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Message 140 of 1043 (620993)
06-22-2011 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by AZPaul3
06-21-2011 6:05 AM


Bump for Percy
Message 135
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Message 144 of 1043 (621063)
06-23-2011 7:57 AM
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06-23-2011 2:55 AM


Re: Fidelity
It was only a "play" on your comment, and a good one at that.

I understand this, Chuck77, and agree with your opinion.

All is good.


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Message 169 of 1043 (629493)
08-18-2011 6:04 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by cavediver
08-18-2011 2:50 AM


Re: Coyote Barred From Coffee House?
I don't see it. What the hell did Coyote do?

No disrespect or personal attacks on others. No misrepresentation. No abusive language. And quite "on-topic" given the circumstance of his view. No forum violations.

What is this all about? Something personal?


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Message 175 of 1043 (629502)
08-18-2011 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Huntard
08-18-2011 7:45 AM


Re: Maybe the Moose thought of it like this?
Since Coyote complains that we should keep this site to only discuss creation and evolution, he shouldn't post in the coffee house section, the only section in the forum not about creation and evolution.

We do not know if this is correct or not. If this is the reason then it is an awfully weak one and should be rejected.

Some kind of explanation should have accompanied the suspension. Without some explanation from Moose, however, we have no idea why this action was taken. This is disturbing.


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Message 176 of 1043 (629504)
08-18-2011 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by jar
08-18-2011 8:34 AM


Re: Coyote booted from Coffee House
no one knows what a moose will do during rutting season.

Oh come on, jar. They rut. That's why we call it "rutting" season, remember? Duh.


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Message 269 of 1043 (633471)
09-14-2011 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 266 by Adminnemooseus
09-14-2011 4:18 AM


Re: Some thoughts on my recent controversial admin actions
The evolutionist side needs to play softball rather than hardball, to maintain an ongoing discourse.

Be kind to your creationist.

I can accept this as your motivation, Moose, though I disagree with its reasoning. You are the Admin and so it is.

Two problems with this.

First, if this motivation is the key, with this heavy a penalty, then it should be part of the forum rules. It is not.

Second, that this motivation can just as well be served by posting a banner, like the OFF-TOPIC banner, on the offending post with a 24-hour suspension for repeat offenders.

Not kind to your Creationist!
Continuation will yield a suspension.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 724 of 1043 (725640)
04-30-2014 12:00 AM


Capt Stormfield, 1 week - Reduced to 48 hours served.

Thank you, Moose.


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Message 775 of 1043 (750748)
02-21-2015 5:08 PM


spam sdgjdshguj jgbuDBIAS spam
spam Spam in Proposed New Topics.

Catchy title: sdgjdshguj jgbuDBIAS

Looks extraterrestrial to me.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


  
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Message 776 of 1043 (751123)
02-27-2015 1:56 PM


Cat Sci Roles!
Did Cat Sci just role the odometer on his EvC?

I think he did!

Congrats, Cat!

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 1035 of 1043 (857481)
07-08-2019 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1034 by Theodoric
07-08-2019 5:09 PM


Re: Faith and Dwise1
I don’t know, Theo. Hugging trees is not a good thing. You get dirt, grime, insects, sap all over your shirt and pants.

And before you hug a tree do you even ask first? You just go slobber your skin grease, germs and dead skin cells all over them?

Besides, around here if you try to hug a tree their spikes stick you and make you bleed. Saguaro don’t like being hugged. They take to bleeding a liberal heart seriously.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 1038 of 1043 (857501)
07-08-2019 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1036 by Theodoric
07-08-2019 5:59 PM


Re: Faith and Dwise1
Thank you.

Now what about the other 300,000,000? Is that next week?


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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