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Author Topic:   Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men?
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Message 513 of 2241 (739592)
10-25-2014 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 511 by jar
10-25-2014 9:50 AM


Re: Some sermons on inspiration and inerrancy that back me up
By definition everyone else is wrong. Simple, really. In multiple senses of "simple".

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Message 1934 of 2241 (748496)
01-26-2015 1:25 PM
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01-26-2015 12:37 PM


Re: so let's add yet abother different vesion of the story
22:9 means they didn't hear what the voice SAID. You do have to read in context.

I.e make stuff up. The passage explicitly and clearly tells us that they did not hear the voice.

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Message 1953 of 2241 (748517)
01-26-2015 2:06 PM
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01-26-2015 1:26 PM


Re: so let's add yet abother different vesion of the story
It can't mean that because the Bible doesn't contradict itself.

The Bible contradicts itself in many places. Ignoring them is assuming your conclusion. You are supposed to be demonstrating infallibility, not assuming it. But obviously you are incapable of even comprehending the concept of demonstrating infallibility, much less actually trying to do it; all you've ever done is assert it.

The passage explicitly and clearly tells us that they did not hear the voice. The Bible contradicts itself in that case. Not earth-shaking, but a definite contradiction.

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Message 1954 of 2241 (748519)
01-26-2015 2:13 PM
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01-26-2015 2:02 PM


Re: so let's add yet abother different vesion of the story
The Bible is not to be approached "normally," it's not a normal production.

Assuming your conclusion yet again.

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Message 2041 of 2241 (748751)
01-29-2015 7:36 AM
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01-29-2015 1:11 AM


Yeah, that's your hypothesis. With no evidence for it whatsoever.

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Message 2086 of 2241 (748861)
01-30-2015 11:33 AM
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01-30-2015 4:40 AM


There's lots written against this documentary hypothesis nonsense, also known as "the higher criticism," to be found online.

Yep, and lots written for it. If you want to address the arguments for it go ahead.

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Message 2093 of 2241 (748885)
01-30-2015 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2092 by Percy
01-30-2015 3:09 PM


Dean Anderson once put up a Web page of the KJV Pentateuch with each word colored according to which of four sources the word was attributed. Then he took it down for some reason. He gave me a copy but withheld permission to put it on the Web.

It's a shame. Whatever you think of the DH in general or whichever DH variant he chose, it is a very effective presentation with information contained in the blocks or lines or dots of color, and the ability to easily read each source separately.


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Message 2129 of 2241 (749005)
02-01-2015 8:50 AM
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01-31-2015 10:30 PM


Re: Moses
When tradition is as strongly supported as the Biblical tradition is, it is evidence in itself.

So Hinduism must be the One True Religion.

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