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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The bible people know that they cannot provide any corroborating evidence. They expect it to be accepted on faith and faith alone.
But if you do get a bite, it should be fun. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
See #8
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
You keep claiming evidence but don't point to any actual evidence.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The archeological evidence that has been discovered has added weight to the fact that the bible was recording the events of real places and real people. The kings of the nations it mentions have been confirmed by archeology, the customs of the various nations has been confirmed and even the building work and landmarks mentioned in the bible have been discovered by archeology. Have you a heard of Samuel Clemons(Mark Twain)? He wrote a couple books that have real people and places in them. So I assume that makes them true? How about the "The DaVinci Code"? That is so full of real people and places it must be practically scripture. Your logic is flawed to the point that it is ludicrous. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
But you have no evidence yours is not fiction.
You are claiming that your book is true because of the same reasons that any fiction could be true. What you stated is NOT evidence to the historicity of the bible, or for that matter any book. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
of accurate prophecy We have discussed your examples of prophecy in the past. They do not pass the sniff test. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
That has not been verified because the Saudi's do no allow access to it by researchers. It must be understood that any research in the region is risky and dangerous, given the Muslim Saudis have no desire to support the Biblical record relative to anything supportive to Israel and Jews.
Evidence please not just blind assertions. You do know that Moses is a central prophet in Islam, don't you?
quote: Source Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
In researching Buz's latest, this is my favorite line so far.
Per marine biologists, coral does not grow on rocks and sand, only on man-made objects.
Source So there was no such thing as coral before man made items fell into the ocean? Atlantis must be under the Great Barrier Reef. Edited by Theodoric, : punctuation Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
You do know that preaching or teaching Bible is forbidden in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and other Muslim nations? quote:Source You are correct about Saudi Arabia, but I do not know of any other Muslim country that bans preaching or teaching of the bible. Please enlighten me. Your comment does not strengthen your argument. All it does is display your ignorance. Moses is a big thing in Islam. This can not be denied. So why would they prevent research into him? Please provide evidence that the Saudi's do not allow research into Moses. I have found a few websites by christians saying they have researched it in Saudi Arabia. Are they lying? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Lennart Moller is a DNA researcher, a biologist, not an archaeologist.
Here is a good debunking of the good doctor.
quote:Debunk And what the hell is this idea that coral will not grow on gold? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The comment was to point out the idiocy of some of the arguments used to push this idea.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
in Message 46
You state You do know that preaching or teaching Bible is forbidden in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and other Muslim nations? Now you say.
but I know of no Islamic nation which looks favorably on the Bible, including Indonesia where Biblical churches and people often are persecuted and have their churches attacked and destroyed. forbidden=not looked on favorably? Do you truly believe these say the same things? Or did you think the unsourced crap you threw out there would not be questioned? Buz,A bit of advice. You need to look at your sources critically. There are a lot of lies and misrepresentations on a lot of web sites. Christian fundie sites are among the worst. You should probably double check before you use any of them as a source. Also, you might want to consider giving sources for this bilge too. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Your source served to obfuscate the evidence Please point out the obfuscation. If you are going to claim something back it up. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
If you choose not to ascribe to the evidence, fine, but don't incessantly keep on falsly arguing that Moller, Wyatt, et al's research has produced no evidence whatsoever. As others have shown there is no evidence. Just assertions. Buz- Where is the chariot wheel? Where are others? Show the mountain was burned with supernatural fire. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
According to the chart posted by Lysimachus in the previous discussion the sea ISN'T particularly shallow there. Could you give the link to this? I am going to download some maps of the gulf of aqaba as soon as I remember my PayPal password. Edited by Theodoric, : db codes Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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