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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
It is just one more step toward the inevitable domination of form over content.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
bluegenes writes:
Well, there was Victor Borge who did just about everything other than capitalize.We don't capitalize and use formal grammar when we chat. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Jon writes:
That was just crashfrog being ornery. I wouldn't worry about it.Why shouldn't I be? When I'm using a plain text editor in a command line window, the two spaces at the end of a sentence still look better. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
According to Message 114 in Suspensions and Bannings Part III, DrJones* is suspended for 1 week due to his post at Message 163.
I suspect that the offending post was seen as an insult. But I don't think it was. Rather, I am seeing it as a reductio ad absurdum of the "I maintain that ..." style of argument. I'll grant that DrJones* chose an example that some would find offensive in his reductio, so I am not objecting to a suspension. But I think 1 week is a bit excessive. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Butterflytyrant writes:
Given that you just quoted the notice, the answer would seem to be "Yes."
First of all, do I get notified of this? Butterflytyrant writes:
"More than one's fair share" is very common idiomatic speech in English (including the Oz version of English). So why play dumb and pretend that it is a reference to a defined quota, when you know that it is just using a common idiom?Second, apart from the 7 to IamJoseph there are a total of 4 new thread requests. How many is my fair share exactly? The admins attempt to keep the discussions orderly and rational. It did seem to me that your multiple new topics were excessive, so I was not all surprised when an admin thought you had shown poor judgment. May I suggest a little self examination as to how you can participate in keeping this a place for thoughtful and rational discussion.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Butterflytyrant writes:
Correct.The notice was in the public record thread. Admin posts only. No PM to me. As far as I know, it has always been the practice to give notifications in public. The PM feature is a relatively new addition to the forum.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Butterflytyrant writes:
Adminnemooseus probably assumed that you were a decent and reasonable human with a little common sense.
You dont think a warning would have been nice? Butterflytyrant writes:
Adminnemooseus probably assumed that this would be obvious to you, and that you only needed a little prodding to arouse that awareness.
Or maybe a comment on one of the failed proposed threads that I was doing something wrong? Butterflytyrant writes:
It was probably assumed that you were an actual human, rather than a mindless mechanical robot only able to rigidly follow a prescribed set of rules.Or maybe a list of the proposed new topic rules that I can get get banned for breaking? Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Buzsaw writes:
I'm not sure why you bring that up in a reply to me. It is not as if I had anything to do with that posting restriction.
Which begs the question as to why my banning from all science forums including Biblical accuracy and intelligent design forums was not publically aired in the proper forum, designated for these announcements?? Buzsaw writes:
It seems more likely that you were repeatedly posting off-topic.Imo, it was because I was kicking some butt and raising some troublesome questions in the science fora. In any case, wouldn't it be simpler for you to send a PM to Admin, asking for reinstatement of those privileges. That would probably either get you reinstated, or provide you with an explanation as to why not.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Butterflytyrant writes:
Most of life is spent dealing with unwritten rules.My point, that you seem to be missing, is that I was banned for not following an unspoken set of rules. When one joins a new social group, whether in person or on the Internet, the natural thing to do is to take a little time observing how others engage themselves in the group. And if one accidently commits a social faux pas, the natural thing is to be a tad apologetic and to attempt to learn from that mistake.
Butterflytyrant writes:
Yes it has, though it was a restriction rather than a ban.My ban has been lifted. The Admins here usually try to help new members. I suspect that Adminnemooseus thought it best to protect the board by slowing you down a little. So best wishes for your future participation here. But do try to slow down a bit.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Buzsaw writes:
But it didn't actually apply. My discussion was with Butterflytyrant who, in my opinion, was overreacting to a restriction and just needed to calm down a little. Your post was on a quite different kind of restriction. You could have made it an independent post (the "Gen Reply" button), rather than an inappropriate reply.Why did I reply to you? Because it was your statement to which my reply applied. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Yes, that
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
That's an example of poetic justice.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Buzsaw writes:
My assessment is that jar is a decent and honest person, who does what he believes is right. His posting practices are just jar being jar.
Jar is the creationist's in your face one or two liner pain in the butt. That's how he racked up thousands more total posts than the rest of us old timers. Fpr example, if he, in his own secularist mindset thinks a creationist haven't responded to his satisfaction he keeps on keeping on repeating the one or two liner questions. Buzsaw writes:
If you and other creationists would post something of substance, then there would be more substance in jar's replies and in the replies of others.If he'd post half or less as much, submitting just the ones of substance, Moose and creationists could tolerate him. I'm guessing, but I'm inclined to think that moose is a bit of a neat freak, and when things get too far from his idea of a desirable neatness or orderliness, he tries to do something about it. However, it is the nature of internet debating, that it is hard to keep it neat. And sometimes moose goes a bit overboard in his efforts. However, I agree with Omnivorous, that moose puts in a lot of effort and does a lot of good for this board.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
What do you think?
That bag of peanuts has long since run empty. It's time for a fresh start. I agree with your suggestion (1). However, (2) is a bad idea. A GD participant should be able to clear up misconceptions that show up in the PG thread, with having to make that part of the GD. I'm neutral on (3). I don't have a problem with it, but I don't think you need to specify that. Just let the GD take its course.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I'm sorry but if Buz got suspened for his posts (which he shouldn't have been) then surley Theodoric should be suspened for this Message 190
Buz ignored some moderator warning messages that immediately preceded his post. I don't see the comparison with Theodoric. I'm not saying that I support the suspension. I'm just disagreeing with your comparison and refraining from second guessing the moderation.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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