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Nowhere in the Bible does it say that priests can't molest children or murder millions who disagree with Romanism either. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Anyone who knows and believes the Bible and represents it correctly speaks for God, sorry.But you are right, it is a matter of opinions after all, the opinion of those who believe God and His word versus the opinion of those who reject it and support the RCC's paganism (indulgences, relics, prayer to "saints," repetitive prayers, prayers for the dead etc.) and all the rest of the offenses against both Christ and humanity by the red-and-purple-robed bejeweled anti-Christian hierarchy with its unChristian ambition to rule the world that anyone with the barest knowledge of the gospels of Christ ought to see in an instant bears no resemblance to same. But of course we can ignore the gospels, TRUE Christianity must be what the Pope says it is, huh?True, it's a matter of opinion. I know yours, you know mine, can we stop now?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I really get your point, Faith, and I have to say it makes sense. What other basis for Christian doctrine and belief could there be but the Bible, since there is no other source of information about Jesus Christ and his teachings?

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And your point is well taken that the practices of the RCC pretty obviously contradict the letter and the spirit of the scriptures. I for one thank you for informing us of these things.In my dreams, I know.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Everything I quoted (I think, just about anyway, and besides, Jesus authored the entire Bible, it's ALL His Word) was from Jesus Himself, the Word as you point out, whose words you'd never find out except from the written Word. Without it nobody would have a clue about Jesus Christ and His teachings but you dismiss the very source of knowledge about Him. How ludicrous. You wouldn't know He is the Word of God without the written Word. Pretty irrational to dismiss the Bible as if you could know Jesus without it.Yes, I believe God's "mass slaughters" are demonstrations of His judgments against sin. Most of them followed hundreds of years of His being patient with the people before bringing the judgment. You can learn from these things how God deals with sin or you can ignore it and get caught off guard. He gives us such information for our own good.God uses the personalities and cultural experience of His inspired writers too.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm sure the Pope appreciates your fervent politically correct defense of the RCC's wealth and false doctrine, and especially your hatred of traditional Protestantism. Do let us know if he invites you for a special audience.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm sure God has heard your complaint loud and clear and given it due consideration. You can expect to be apprised of his conclusions at the appropriate time.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Of course I read all the books of the Bible the same way. They are all inspired by God, and that means by Jesus and the Holy Spirit as well as the Father. The early Church and the Church through the ages continued to affirm the inspiration of the majority of the body of scriptures that were eventually bound together as the Bible which was the final ratification of them as God's own word. If being inspired means they are God's word you cannot pick and choose among them as to which is the truth; they all are.Your problem is that you have a very narrow man-centered standard that you impose on the scriptures. There is only one way to read the scriptures and that is by submitting oneself and one's opinions completely to what they have to teach us. When I started out as a Christian I found that difficult with some parts of the Bible, just as you do, I found myself complaining to God about this or that message that I couldn't quite abide; but I knew the scriptures were inspired and knew that my own ego had to submit, and over time I grew into that new way of being. Your problem is that you stubbornly stopped short of submitting yourself to God on points that rub your flesh the wrong way.This idea that inspiration makes the authors of the Bible "robotic" is really a revelation of your own lack of knowledge of how the Holy Spirit works, which is no doubt due to your rejection of much of what He teaches. You can't know Him if you pick and choose among His teachings. But all of us who live by faith in God through the Holy Spirit and the entire Bible do know how the Holy Spirit works because He also inspires US; If we yield ourselves to Him -- that's the crucial IF that stumbles you -- He guides us in the living of our lives just as He did the authors of the Bible in the writing of their separate accounts. It doesn't make any of us into robots to yield ourselves to His leading. [abe: no, this doesn't put us on a level with the authors of inspired scripture; we know God chose them and guided them for that purpose and that they were yielded to Him for every word they wrote, which we can't say about much that we do. And we have faith that God preserved their writings for our instruction./abe]As for this idea that I only talk about salvation, you are failing to appreciate the context that I'm writing in here. I'm always having to answer challenges to the most basic Christian doctrine. When I'm talking to Christians who are born again and share my views we're more often talking about how Jesus inspires us to live our lives based on the foundation of our salvation.You make all kinds of accusations of me in your post, and I don't think I understand most of it well enough to attempt an answer. I get my understanding of Christian doctrine from teachers down through the history of the Church, as well as sermons from a variety of teachers and preachers who share the orthodox traditional point of view. Over the years from thousands of sources I've learned who teaches the truth and who doesn't. I don't depend on my own feelings for any of this as you seem to do in forming your doctrine. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Just one answer for now: The Reformation did not invent inerrancy. What do you think the point was of the making of lists of books at the various councils that were regarded as inspired by God? The idea of inspiration is the idea of inerrancy.Oh make it two answers: Jesus is NOT "correcting" the Old Testament in His Sermon on the Mount, He is revealing its true meaning. He is God, He taught the Jews, He took their weaknesses into account during their time, and now since He has come in the flesh and we have the Holy Spirit to strengthen us we can stand the stronger meat of the complete revelation. {HOWEVER, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE OT THAT SAYS "HATE YOUR ENEMIESOh make it three: Jesus quoted from every book in the Old Testament, quoted it as THE WORD OF GOD. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Jesus DID author the Bible. The putting of some of His words in red in some Bibles confuses this fact because ALL the words of scripture are His, AND God the Father's AND God the Holy Spirit's. The Spirit of God who inspires us is the Spirit of Christ. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

MOST of the books on ALL the canonical lists were identical. The canon we now have in the Protestant Bible is all inspired scripture.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Too much of Lewis is Lewis and not God to call his writings inspired. And besides, as you acknowledge, he would say so himself.The Biblical writers were inspired though. "The word of the LORD came to me..." is a clue in some cases that you no doubt despise.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No, I answered GDR's claim that inspiration makes robots of inspired authors.

Oh for crying out loud. Yes he accused ME of promoting the idea of robots because I believe in the inspiration of scripture. THAT IS WHAT I WAS ANSWERING. Good grief.

Stop confusing things with your ignorance. GDR denies that God inspired the Old Testament passages that he happens not to like. He pretty much said the only scripture he takes seriously is the gospels. GDR does NOT believe in the inspiration of scripture.