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Explain why they are different.
Why did god save one child and not the other child? Remember this is not a rash decision at all "the spirit of the Lord entered him".
The same act was done ( human sacrifice) , why is god not acting consistently?Edited by Golffly, : No reason given.

God "felt obligated to perform". This is god here Faith, not the neighbor hood bratty child. God's not obligated to allow a child to be sacrificed, on his behalf.
And come on, it's clearly human sacrifice intended. Stop the habitual lying for god stuff. It makes you look disingenuously stupid.

Please, please Faith. You make shit up. Come on, this is absurdity you spew.
When Jephthah had the spirit of the Lord enter. He realized maybe his wife or daughter would likely walk out of the house. Hence he would sacrifice one of them. But he thought god would resurrect the human sacrifice victim. This is a prophesy of the daughter of Jairus resurrection in Luke, Matthew, Mark.
See anybody can make shit up as prophecy or symbolism.

That is your opinion, which you have also struggled to communicate in a rational manner. Suffice to say, I have read the bible a number of times. I read it without somebody telling me what it said. That is bias. I can read English well enough and have ample familiarity with the bible.Faith something " in the text", refers to something a reasonable person would rightly see. It doesn't require anything more than that. It's reading what has been written, generally in plain English. I don't say sometimes there isn't meaning other than what it appears to say. But not every time. Not most times. Not times that are convenient for you, but invisible to others except those in your religious group. Further, there is argument within that group, about the invisible stuff, other completely logical people can't see."It is partly cloudy out today". Everybody reads that similarly.
It doesn't mean to say that in two thousand years there will be a partly cloudy day as well and thus it's a prophecy.
It doesn't mean the two clouds visible are seven clouds because two is part of seven, or two equal seven or maybe two thousand years ago two was seven or visa versa depending on who wants to read what, from some religious group.It's partly cloudy out.. is just what it is. What its says, can be read as it's printed.
Reading what you like into biblical statements, isn't going to convince anyone they can't THINK like you can. Rather I will submit, it very much likely will convince them, the last thing they want to do is think like you.Edited by Golffly, : No reason given.

While it is interesting to see the guess work involved in trying to make the bible fit what we want it to say, that is mostly an example of the fruitfulness of the human imagination.
The problems of the bible occur with mostly what it actual says, as opposed to what we wish it would say if we wrote it.So what it actually says.
I pointed out that god didn't approve of human sacrifice but then changed his mind and did approve or allow it.Oh, also is incest also a prophecy or some type of symbolism?Staying with Abe, as was pointed out here earlier, he marries his half sister Sarah.
The righteous man Lot screws his daughters.
And if a person thinks about it, Adam and Eve's first grand children come from an incestuous relationship.Leviticus later condemns incest with death.
The idea that an all knowing being changes his mind is ripe for a discussion in and of itself. But why does god approve incest, only to later not approve of it?Edited by Golffly, : Addition

Rather than threaten, why don't we stick to what the bible says.
Let's avoid the imaginary stuff, there is lots it actually says that is contradictory.
So okay, what about the incest?
We can agree it condones that at least.

Read Jepthah again. You misread and purposely actually.
God has an arrangement with him. God keeps his end of the bargain. Jepthah completely his end of the bargain by sacrificing his daughter. Of course God was fine with the human sacrifice he agreed to the bargain with Jepthah to begin with. Kept his end of the bargain. Then did nothing to dissuade Jepthah from sacrificing his daughter. That's what happened.We have three ( at minimum) scenarios of incest. All god approved
- Adam and Eve's children
- Abraham to Sarah ( Abe's half sister) and god blesses that marriage.
- The righteous Lot screws his daughters. Drunk or not it's incest.Let's see what you managed to make up here now.
Adam and Eve's children screwing each other can't be considered incest. LOL. That's a beauty! How would you define it then?
Why would an all knowing god set up a situation where there has to be incest. Only to strongly condemn it later. I mean he knew it had to happen, he knew he was going to get all pissy later about it. Did he not think that out?The genetic thing is superb by the way. For sure they would be purer strains, we know that from genetics. And the diversity in genes we know occurs from evolution. It's nice to see your argument for genetics comes from the evolution argument.So what do you want to say about Abe with the blessed marriage from god to his sister and the righteous Lot screwing his daughters.Why did god like the incest early on but get so mad about it later, so much so he condemned it with death?. I mean he's all knowing so he knew it would all occur.

Dolt? Really, okay.
Humor me then, I don't see you explained or answered anything.
I see you made stuff up and that can't be the best you can make up can it?

Thanks for the link. Thanks for the effort you put forth there.
In my opinion, it is absolutely superb!

That is outright wrong.
No nukes has displayed some admirable patience. You have hurled the insults.
How he maintains composure when you've displayed such bias, unknowing, fantasy is truly remarkable. I don't know how he does it.
I think No Nukes has displayed far more integrity and composure than one could rightly expect from any good person.
Kudos to No Nukes.Edited by Golffly, : No reason given.

No prophesy to Jesus in OT. None. Definitively agree and you dismantled it beautifully!
Some other things, we might not agree on. Doesn't make me right though. :-)))

Faith, perhaps you could address this as it seems particularly valid.Also, I brought up Jepthah to some another example of child sacrifice.
You actually started quite a rationalization on it saying he didn't mean a person but an animal. It's clear it was to be a person.
Then I wanted you to explain why child sacrifice was approved by god sometimes and not others. You didn't.
That's all that was about.
But arachnophilia has actually a superb example here that merits a response from you given your "challenge" and all

I will attempt another explanation.
The unknown writer of John is the only one that says this " lamb of god" thing. He also has Jesus killed on the day of Preparation of the lamb that is slaughtered. This day is one day earlier than other gospels.
Why the discrepancy?From Exodus: Okay, the Passover lamb represents the lamb whose blood was used to mark the Israelite homes. This was to distinguish Israelite homes from Egyptian homes, when god really got mad and decided to kill the innocent first born Egyptian children ( and the animals interestingly enough). Using blood from a slaughtered lamb on Israelite homes as a marker, so they could be distinguished from Egyptian homes, so god can kill the correct innocent kids. (Forget about why an all knowing god can't tell the difference without the blood markers). Okay death comes and " passes over" the blood marked homes of the Israelites but killed the intended Egyptian kids. The Jews celebrate this feat in Jerusalem in Passover. And Jerusalem is the most holy place for this traditional slaughter of the lamb. The lamb is slaughtered by a special Jewish priest.Okay back to whoever is writing John. John has Jesus killed the same day as the celebratory lamb is killed in Jerusalem for the start of Passover. This is one day before and a bible discrepancy on Jesus' death.
- John is the only one saying Jesus is the lamb of god
- John has Jesus killed a day earlier on the day of the lambs slaughter
- To John, Jesus is the lamb and he makes his death coincide with the same day the lamb is traditionally slaughtered in Jerusalem
-So John is making Jesus die the same day the lamb is slaughtered for Jewish celebration. In the same place where the celebration occurs- Jerusalem. At the hands of the same people (special Jews slaughter the lamb for Passover) so by Jewish leaders.
- John is making Jesus follow slaughter of the Passover lamb tradition.So the " lamb of god" thing was made to fit by John. This is just an example of how a bible writer, after the fact, can easily present a similarity. It's not foreshadowing in Exodus. It's writing with after the fact knowledge of reading the OT and making a new story fit. Perhaps you get your own " inspiration" for this type of sneaky, hood winking from the bible.Edited by Golffly, : No reason given.

There are lots of sons of god. I think arach mentioned this already.
One can weave a tale out of the sons to get them to fit a lot of things depending on a person's "need".-Christians are all sons of god. John1;12
- satan is god's son. Job 1:6, 2;1
-Adam was. Luke 3:38
-Some angels screw women producing giants. They are son's as well Gen 6:2-4So god is pretty liberal about the sons.

So now if I look at Faith's argument.
We have Isaac who is god's only son
Jesus is god's only begotten son. 1John 4:9
I take " only" as meaning one. One person. Here we have two. Unless we use the argument that one is part of two like the 2/7 thing.
Also, we have a long list of other "sons" of god.- Jesus apparently has no human father.
-Isaac has a human father and presumably god did helped Abe accomplish the task to impregnate his sister.
- angels impregnate women to produce giants with no human father.So the no human father is similar to both giants and JesusIf we are going to look for similarities from an old book, where the writers of a new book have read the old book and use it.... It's not surprising to have some similarities. The interesting part for me was the similarity between Jesus and Giants.
So it's possible to argue giants are a prophecy of Jesus?Edited by Golffly, : No reason given.Edited by Golffly, : Edit: Re; Faith