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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Navy SEAL named Pete Higbie supports Donald Trump because he is the kind of leader who can lobby for changes to the Geneva Convention, which would make it so American soldiers don't have to go to war "with their hands tied behind their backs." You did not tell the half of this crazy story. Trump is quoted as backing completely off of his statements regarding torturing and waterboarding because the practices are clearly illegal and violations of treaty. The response to Trump flip come from one of America's finest complaining about Trump not getting the Geneva convention changed, and a second hawk complaining that Trumps about face makes it harder for him to wriggle around the law and to torture despite the Geneva convention. Megan Kelly is the voice of reason who complains about Trump spending months on an indefensible position before publicly backing off. There guys actually made Kelly sound like the left wing, pinko in the room. Sad. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
It's that YET that concerns me. He shows all the signs of being capable of being a Hitler if he gets the power. With how much he craves and covets power, to have that much power seems like a recipe for disaster. He seems like the kind of guy that would vindictively attack nations for daring to challenge him."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 506 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined:
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There is another possibility. Trump is trolling the Republican Party to give Hillary an easy win. Just thinking out loud.
If you say the word "gullible" slowly, it sounds like oranges. Go ahead and try it.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dr Adequate writes:
Fair enough. My intention was to hone the meaning of the word, not contradict it. Pardon my subtlety.
Nah, you said "I don't think Hitler "ordered" the murder of 6 million so much as he inspired it."
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Percy writes:
I make no excuses for the Holocaust. This came across as excusing Hitler of responsibility for the Holocaust My point - again - was that a demagogue tends to attract the people who are capable of such actions. Hitler had been railing against Jews for decades before he had the power to do anything to them. He attracted the kind of followers who were ready, willing and able to do the unthinkable. He couldn't actually do the unthinkable without them. Hence the parallel with Trump. He has the endorsement of biker gangs and the Ku Klux Klan. All he needs is the likes of Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy and he'll be able to carry out his program. (Mind you, we can hope that the US Constitution will prevent him from doing what he wants to do.)
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2727 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined:
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Hi, Ringo.
ringo writes: I make no excuses for the Holocaust. Well, let's file that under "Points you never thought you'd have to clarify, except in American politics or on the internet."-Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you.
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2727 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined:
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I just thought of something, and even though it risks opening the old wounds, I wanted to share it.
Over on the Corvid ecologists thread a while back, Faith and I bantered a bit about blue jays (the North American birds). Faith opened with this statement:
Faith writes: But I'd like to respond to your comment about blue jays that it's hard to like a bird that will bully out all the little birds from the feeder, the chickadees and the finches, the huge raucous bird straddling the thing until it's eaten all the seed or knocked it all to the ground.
Message 4 I wanted to try a little experiment:
Faith (hypothetical) writes: But I'd like to respond to your comment about Donald Trump that it's hard to like a guy that will bully out all the other guys from the country, the Muslims and the Mexicans, the huge raucous guy straddling the thing until Americans have all the jobs or knocked the economy all to the ground. Hmm... nope, doesn't work. Reasons to criticize a bird are not valid reasons to criticize a candidate for President of the United States. How odd.-Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you. |
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
There is another possibility. Trump is trolling the Republican Party to give Hillary an easy win.
I doubt it. Trump's campaign is all about Trump. He doesn't give a damn about Hillary or you or me or anybody else.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
nwr writes:
I'm curious to see how he reacts if/when he (hopefully) loses. A Canadian Conservative would blame his defeat on the Toronto Elites (not a sports team) and the ethnic vote.
Trump's campaign is all about Trump. He doesn't give a damn about Hillary or you or me or anybody else.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
ringo writes: (Mind you, we can hope that the US Constitution will prevent him from doing what he wants to do.) Unfortunately actual history shows us the the US Constitution does not prevent US Presidents from genocide, ethnic cleansing, funding terrorists, domestic spying, redacting prisoners, torture, using US Military against US civilian populations, overthrowing foreign governments and heir duly elected heads of state or invasion of nations without a declaration of a state of war and based on flimsy made up excuses.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Still trying to figure out how they determine the number of delegates as Cruz got around 44% of the vote and 67% of the delegates; Trump got 27% of the vote and 31% of the delegates; Rubio got around 18% of the vote but only around 2% of the delegates. ... What I heard was that the winner got 29 (?) delegates off the top, and the rest are parceled out proportionately -- for those above a set threshold.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Well, let's file that under "Points you never thought you'd have to clarify, except in American politics or on the internet." You mean like comparing Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, in a particularly bizarre moment in a thoroughly bizarre interview, said that the purpose of Cruz's campaign is "to show this country the face of the God that we serve".
Apart from anything else, God has clearly stated (Exodus 33) that no-one can see his face and live, so apparently Cruz's plan is to annihilate America, it'll be like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie where the Nazis open the Ark of the Covenant. This man must be stopped.
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