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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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But his supporters will continue to support him. There is a possibility that because he spoke this way about white women there may be some backlash, but I won't hold my breath.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Looks like a simple paper describing strategies to combat any GOP candidate. The Clinton campaign is not responsible for Trump. Have the used the gift given them by the GOP? Of course. They would be negligent if they had not. But the GOP and its voters are the only ones responsible for Trump.
If you have more evidence for your conspiracy theory present it. If this is it than your argument is laughable.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Well since you claim it exists how about showing it.
You mean the rampant evidence of collusion of CNN MSNBC an other media with the Clinton campaign? Where the DNC and Clinton aides wrote the news? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Not trying to judge, but whomever was running that autopsy and making suggestions should probably be fired.
In actuality the suggestions were pretty good. The problem is the base fought against them and never would have supported them. A party that is the home of racists, anti-Semites, white nationalists and misogynists can never make the tent bigger.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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So you got nothing that backs you up. Just as I thought.
This election has shown me that the vast majority of people are not interested in the fact that our democracy is under siege by the 1% or dealing with social issues, they are much more interested in the behavior of football players.
Don't you dare act as if you know what I think or feel. Just because people don't agree with your conspiracy theories does not mean they do not understand the gravity of the issues in this country and presidential race.
Hillary is bought\colluding, the DNC is bought.
Do moneyed interests have excessive influence? Of course. You are making claims of bribery, but provide no support or evidence. Conspiracy theorism is ugly whether it is from the right or the left. As always, your "holier than thou" attitude is off putting and offensive.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Those are opinion pieces. I have had great respect for Glen Greenwald in the past, but he can quickly cross over the line from objective reporting. Again, none of these pieces provide evidence of the collusion you claim.
Again you claim to know who I am and what I think. Alas, you still do not. Emails and accusations are not evidence for what you claim. I was a very strong Bernie supporter, financially, emotionally and physically. I walked the walk. Alas, Bernie lost. It is time to move on. There are issues about the DNC, huge issues. Now is not the time to address them. The release of the email has pointed out that reform of the party is needed. Burning the place down is not the answerFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Stein is antiscience and panders to conspiracy theorists. Which seemingly would be appealing to you.
Jill Stein’s Anti-Science Pandering – Skepchick quote: There is no excuse for this pandering to the anti-science crowd. Or being on the same page as Trump when it comes to Russia.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Wrong.
No. Correct. I actually have read her responses to questions and her statements. The article I linked to has actual quotes.
You have to be blind or willingly ignorant not to see the several times she has responded to these assertions.
And each time she dissimulates and continues to pander and express anti-science views. She has been caught and shown to express anti-science and anti-vax views. She denies it, but expresses the viewpoints again.
This is DNC propaganda.
So we should not take Jill Stein at her word?
Cognitive dissonance is alive and well this election year
Looking in the mirror?
(see Working Families Party, of which I am also a member, see especially their issues).
I am very familiar with them and have had some conversations with them here in WI. Funny that the candidate you so vehemently oppose is endorsed by your party. What I like about them is that they see the long game and are not going to cut off their nose to spite their face. If they can continue to build an organization, I can see that I will be working and contributing more to them in the future. Page not found - Working Families Party
quote: Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Evidence of machine tampering to record false results, always to Clinton benefit (a trick learned from the GOP).
Bullshit. You have no evidence. I follow reports of voting irregularities. There is no evidence that shows any tampering. If you have it the FBI would be quite interested in seeing it.
Long lines in Bernie districts because of sudden cut-back on polling stations ... but not in Clinton districts.
How did anyone know which polling stations to cut back on? I suppose you have evidence for this accusation. Would love to see it.
Then add in the systemic rigging of closed primaries where independents could not vote, as in New York where you had to register democrat before the first debate to be able to vote in the primary. Half of Bernie's supporters were independents.
It was the Democratic Party primary. You have a problem with actual members of the party choosing their parties nominee. That is a very weird and disingenuous argument. This rule was not put in place for this contest. It has been the parties rule. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Are you and Glen Greenwald ready to apologize to Kurt Eichenwald?
http://www.newsweek.com/...-blumenthal-vladimir-putin-512271 It is shame how Greenwald has let his mission become a tool for a totalitarian regime. He has good points and reasons to distrust the US government, but to allow himself to be a tool of Russia is just sad. He is missing an important tool and skill of a journalist, critical thinking.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The article is simplistic bullshit. This is the classic attempt to make a very complicated subject black and white. Case in point.
quote:Evidently this guy has never been to Northern MN, WI, or Maine, NH and Vermont. Since when is CO primarily cities? The article is worthless because the basic premise is bullshit. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
But the whole article is insultingly simplistic and inane.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Excellent point. It makes it seem like no Democrats live in vast parts of the country. This whole idea goes against the important concept our constitution works against. Tyranny of the majority.
With this map if a county has one more rep than dem it gets colored blue. That is effective in propaganda, but skews reality. More reason to throw the whole article in the trash. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Neither you or RAZD presented it that way. And it was neither entertaining or insightful. It was sophomoric at best.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
You expected an article with the title "How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind" to be detailed and serious?
Well lets look at the referrals. From RAZD
An interesting read is:
A number of Bernie supporters also came from this group of people, and this article explains how someone can switch from Bernie to Trump, because the democrats are to busy becoming the new republican party to pay attention to the people.
Nope it didn't. From you.
I want to encourage people to read this incredibly entertaining and insightful link RAZD posted: From those comments I was expecting something actually insightful. It is insightful if you mean not presenting actual facts but lots of distortions, and epic stereotypes and racism.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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