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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Do you think the viewpoints of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi mothers, who lost many of their children due to Hillary’s enthusiastic support of Bush Jr.s immoral and illegal Iraq invasion, would also consider Hillary to be a credible potential President? I noted you (and Admin Asgara, Jar, Kjsimmons, Minnemousus, Tanapteryx, Vimesay, and of course "no-reply-Theo") didn’t answer my simple question (above). I even placed a photo to help you all to empathize (if that is even possible). Yet you all did your very best to look away from the horror your preferred candidate creates . . . no response for my other recent reply linking the other dozen countries Hillary has fu*ked. Especially the one about criminal-and-babymurderer-Hillary supporting Saudi Arabia. SAUDI ARABIA! As a Hillary supporter, it must be a continual strain on your neck to look away from all her war-crimes. Exactly, EXACTLY, like Trump supporters holding their noses regarding his stench. M'eh, mark me as unsurprised.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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I noted you (and Admin Asgara, Jar, Kjsimmons, Minnemousus, Tanapteryx, Vimesay, and of course "no-reply-Theo") didn’t answer my simple question (above).
We don't answer your question because it is a bullshit question. Nobody lost their lives because of "Hillary's enthusiastic support". However, it may well be true that dronestar has lost all credibility at evcforum.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Well, let's see if I got the steps of your mature counter-argument correct:
1. Without any consideration what-so-ever, you’ve completely dismissed the vast quantity and quality of evidence presented. (Mainly: Message 256, Message 76, and Message 257) 2. Then you’ve condemned and ignored the following humane and logical follow-up question as: 'stinky.'
quote: 3. As you announce you are going home and taking your ball with you, you pivot . . . 4. and apply an ad hominen attack to my credibility: Na na, Na na. Errm, . . . Kudos NWR, kudos. How proud you and your young parents must be. Just think, maybe someday you'll be old enough to sit at the grown-up's table here at the debate forum. ___________________________ (Of all the voter-suppression tactics in place across the usa, a pity there isn’t minimal mental-age suppression.) ___________________________ COGNITIVE DISSONANCE PHOTO ALERT BELOW:
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I tend not to reply to trolls.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Theo writes: I tend not to reply to trolls. A good rule to live by, no doubt. But it doesn't seem quite as important as a rule against supporting war-mongers.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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However, Bush's military venture did not depend on her vote. If she had voted the other way, we would still have had the war. So her vote was wasted.
Yes, Hillary was wrong to support the war. And she was far too slow to admit her mistake. What it shows is her mind-set, her readiness to "solve" problems with war instead of political negotiations. She admits making errors when it is politically expedient. Gay marriage is another case in point. She "evolves" ... If your candidate consistently makes an initial (bad) choice counter to social progress, then they are being dragged to the correct path, not leading. Curiously, I want a leader that makes the right initial choices. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Curiously, I want a leader that makes the right initial choices. I certainly hope you voted for the Democratic Presidential candidates, and not George W. Bush or some third party candidate (I voted Dem). Otherwise, you were not in opposition to the regime that started the Iraq war. Moose
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vimesey Member (Idle past 102 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
Curiously, I want a leader that makes the right initial choices. Well, you'll have no worries on that score with Trump.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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ramoss Member (Idle past 642 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
You do realize that is a photo of a massacre that happened in 1982, don't you???
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Phat Member Posts: 18349 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
As of 1024 pm MST, Trump is ahead in the electoral college by 244-215 and it doesnt look good.
What worries me about him is that the Supreme Court will turn very conservative and the world will not react well to Trump as US figurehead after embracing Obama.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Yep, the DNC managed to pull defeat out of the jaws of victory.
This is something I posted in July before the primary:
quote: and I take no joy in being right. In politics perception is 9/10ths of reality, and Hillary was damaged goods from the get-go. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Tangle Member Posts: 9515 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Oh God, what have you done.....?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Oh God, what have you done.....? I remember how I felt when Schrubbia was "re-elected" ... and now we will see a bunch of "miss me yet" signs. Perhaps the one good thing out of this mess is that we don't have to hear about Hillary anymore. The DNC took the wrong lesson from the Gore race and blamed Nader instead of looking into why Gore failed to inspire the progressive side of the democrats, and then threw salt on the wound by picking neo-lib Lieberman instead of a progressive VP -- So Hillary copied what Gore did and **SURPRISE* got the same result: low turnouts in dem districts. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I certainly hope you voted for the Democratic Presidential candidates, ... As I expected, Rhode Island went Hillary, but all our electoral college votes were not enough.
... and not George W. Bush or some third party candidate (I voted Dem). Otherwise, you were not in opposition to the regime that started the Iraq war. Bad logic there, if you are talking about this election. If you are talking about 2000 and 2004, I voted dem, and I also did not believe the rush to war propaganda. I had small company, but Bernie was one, and he was right on that and a number of other issues. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Well, you'll have no worries on that score with Trump. Are you honestly saying that if I think Hillary's first choices on a number of issues has been wrong, that her instinct is not good, and that I don't trust her to make the right decisions in the future ... ... that somehow I think Trump would be a good leader??? Really? I think he could start a nuclear war with Mexico. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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