Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.

Well, would you rather be like a battery hen, whose life has a purpose, or a hawk flying free on the wind with no-one to please but itself? Obviously the battery hen has a nobler destiny.

That was a strange jumble of words. It conveys little except that you are angry at science, as usual.Have you given up on the actual topic?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

And do you maintain that this would go differently if there was a God who created humankind by fiat?

The conclusion doesn't seem to follow. One man-made thing can in fact be better than another: a house, a sandwich, a medical diagnosis ...The doctrine of the flat earth is man-made (and usually religiously inspired) but we don't say that therefore it is just as valid as any other man-made opinion as to what shape the earth is.

True meaning in life is attained by becoming one with the banana.

You are of course wrong.

It is not enough to embrace the banana: you must welcome it inside you.

Sexual? David, I don't know how you go about getting a banana inside you, but for most of us this is not a sexual act. See, I eat them. Are you by some chance sticking them up your arse?

But dwise1's point is that insofar as you're doing this for Christian reasons, you're doing this for selfish reasons, to suck up to God. As can be seen from the fact that if God told you to kill your enemies (as he does from time to time in the Bible) you would in principle do that instead. Or indeed if he told you to kill your friends and family. Abraham didn't get all famous by saying "No Lord, I won't kill my son just to please you, that wouldn't be altruistic".

But you remember how this is shit you made up?

That's not an answer to the question you were asked, Dredge.

But that is not what I said, nor will you successfully deceive anyone by pretending that I did.I said that one man-made object can be better than another: do you admit it?---(BTW, I should be interested to know what meaning you assign to a sandwich, and why you feel that your ability to do relates in some way to it being intelligently designed. But this has nothing to do with what I said.)Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

David, don't you find that you look fucking stupid preaching about morality when you yourself are such a filthy liar?

It's much like the existential absurdity of baking, in which a process that isn't a cake somehow produces a cake.

If this is the case, it would still be the case if creationists were right about creationism.