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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
That's a silly distinction. An AR15 is a gun. If guns are tools, then an AR15 is a tool whether you have any use for one or not. Guns are tools. I classify an AR15 as a toy.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
It is not an opinion that an AR15 is a gun. It is a fact. You have your opinion of what the AR15 is and I have my opinion. You said that guns are tools. Therefore an AR15 is a tool. That is logic.
ICANT writes:
You have made it clear in this thread that a gun in your hands is dangerous.
I don't play with dangerous toys.... ICANT writes:
Two hundred years ago, the constitution allowed you to own slaves. Decent people didn't do it just because they could get away with it. But those that do have a constitutional right to do so.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
Unless the wespon is locked up and the ammunition is locked up separately, it is never safe. Thinking a weapon is "safe" is the first safety violation.
It is only dangerous to animals if I am hunting for them for meat.It is only dangerous to humans if they are trying to harm or kill me or someone in my presence. ICANT writes:
Irrelevant. The point is that they did what they did because it was legal - with no consideration of whether it was morally right. That's your stated position on gun ownership. Sure they did and most of them were not in the political party of Lincoln.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
It isn't an opinion. It's a fact, as evidenced by the statistics cited in this thread.
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. ICANT writes:
As I said, the constitutional right to bear arms doesn't give you the moral right to blow people's heads off - any more than the legal right to own slaves gave people the moral right. I believe I have a constitutional right to own and bear arms.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Nosyned writes:
I don't mean to say that ICANT is less safe - though he probably is. I mean to say that everybody around him is less safe because of his careless attitude toward gun safety. You can't tell ICANT that he is less safe with a gun in the house as a fact for him based on population statistics.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
I was talking about the moral right, not the intention. As I pointed out, Jesus told you not to resist evil. He told you to turn the other cheek. I don't have any intention of blowing anyone's head off unless they are trying to blow my head off, my wife's or someone near me.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
You always have an "other" cheek.
I don't have a third cheek. ICANT writes:
Yes He did. "Resist not evil" (Matthew 5:39) covers any number of cheeks. Neither did God give any directions after I turned the second cheek.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
If it was illegal to have a loaded gun by your front door, ready to blow the heads off of any intruders, would you obey the law? Criminals do not obey laws so explain to me how gun control laws would make it more difficult for the criminals to get guns.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
Yes, it's clear that you disregard God's rules when it suits you. My house is my castle. I make the rules that apply inside my house. But the point here is about "law-abiding gun owners". If you make your own rules, you are not law-abiding.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
In fact, there are very few laws that you can break in your own house. The government says we can't control what a person does in their bedroom and neither will they control what goes on in my house.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Pressie writes:
The key word here is "hunting". If you're using a gun to hunt animals, it isn't that hard to keep it safe between hunting expeditions. But if, like ICANT, you're using it to blow people's heads off, it has to be handy, not safe. In our case my brother keeps his 2 hunting rifles in a police approved safe in the house where my wife and I live.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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ICANT writes:
No, no difference at all. Your guns can't prevent somebody else from blowing your head off. Your only chance is to blow his head off first. And you'd have to read his mind to know whether he was going to blow your head off. Your intention is to shoot first in case you might be shot at. I am not using my guns to blow peoples heads off. I have my guns to keep someone from blowing my head off. Big difference. I've already shown you where Jesus told you not to shoot back, much less shoot first.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Speaking on behalf of all Canadians, we're glad you're there too.
Please stay here.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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marc9000 writes:
You'd have to leave your beloved guns behind. ... it's quick fall could flood YOUR southern border with millions of American refugees like myself.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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