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dwise1
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Message 1306 of 5796 (851002)
04-18-2019 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1304 by Faith
04-18-2019 1:02 PM


That kind of personal attack on the woman really requires some evidence. ...
I look forward to your evidence.
It was already presented to you, but obviously you yet again refused to read the evidence. Yet again you have hoisted yourself upon the petard of your willful stupidity.
... makers and actors and other supporters who believe it shows the truth that is normally suppressed ...
No different than the torturers and executioners in the Spanish Inquisition. Or the Puritans in England in their deadly persecution of Catholics (which led to the Gunpowder Plot involving Guy Fawkes). Or the hunting down, testing through torture, and executing of "witches". All such acts by actors who sincerely believed the truth of their beliefs.
That's just as false and invalid an argument as judging the truth of a religion by the number of its followers which you very recently also tried to use.
... and has no agenda except saving babies and giving support to pregnant women.
Ever hear "The Road to Hell is paved with the best of intentions." You'd better make reservations early, because It's going to be very crowded.

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Message 1307 of 5796 (851003)
04-18-2019 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1305 by ooh-child
04-18-2019 1:25 PM


Oh you poor deceived thing. I gave two rather telling examples, the one of Ron Paul's discovery which had been reported by LamarkNewAge, not originally by me, and that was dispensed with handily by calling R Paul a liar -- SUCH an effective way to dispense with facts! And the other was the remark by the politician Northam, also first reported by someone else here, about how full term aborted babies are comforted with a warm blanket during their last hours or moments as they lie dying. Perhaps only the Right heard that audio clip? Hm? I don't even know if full term abortions are dealt with in the film but just in case we are assured that Abby Johnson who wrote the book it's based on, is most certainly a horrific liar like Ron Paul.

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Faith 
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Message 1308 of 5796 (851004)
04-18-2019 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1306 by dwise1
04-18-2019 1:34 PM


Such fictions as you report are SO persuasive aren't they?

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dwise1
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Message 1309 of 5796 (851013)
04-18-2019 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1308 by Faith
04-18-2019 1:37 PM


You are claiming that the Spanish Inquisition did not happen? Really?
You claim that the persecution of Catholics in England by the Protestants did not happen? Really?
You claim that many women were not falsely accused, tried, and executed for being witches as per the Malleus Maleficarum? Really?
You have far exceeded your previous levels of self-delusion. To quote from a British Navy officer's fitrep (paraphrased to adjust for gender):
quote:
She reached rock bottom and has started to dig.

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Message 1310 of 5796 (851015)
04-18-2019 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1309 by dwise1
04-18-2019 1:50 PM


Yes I'm denying any significant persecution of Catholics by Protestants. Most of that is Catholic propaganda. Cromwell's military attack was provoked by the murders committed against Protestants but Catholic propaganda treats him as the perpetrator. They also pretend for instance that Bloody Mary was a victim of such persecution, and the Irish Protestants are considered to be equally at fault with the IRA but the fact is that the IRA was the instigator under the authority of the RCC. Yes the Protestants sometimes retaliated which is too bad, but it was retaliation not instigation. And Guy Fawkes was just part of the Catholic attack on the Protestant government of England. Too bad that these days they've forgotten their own history and are giving the RCC a new foothold. This is not going to be good for England.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1311 of 5796 (851018)
04-18-2019 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1309 by dwise1
04-18-2019 1:50 PM


Where did I say the Spanish Inquisition didn't happen? No idea where you are getting that. But that was just a small part of the RCC slaughter of true Christians in Europe over six hundred years, some fifty million true biblical Christians along with about seventeen million Jews, Muslims, witches and others.

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dwise1
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Message 1312 of 5796 (851023)
04-18-2019 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1311 by Faith
04-18-2019 2:02 PM


Where did I say the Spanish Inquisition didn't happen?
You called it a fiction right there in Message 1308. You forgot what you had written only 13 minutes before? Is your mind deteriorating that fast now?
And your paranoid hatred of Catholics is completely irrelevant, as always. Careful, your {voice=sarcastic}Christian love{/voice} is showing again.

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dwise1
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Message 1313 of 5796 (851025)
04-18-2019 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1310 by Faith
04-18-2019 1:56 PM


Oh pull your head out and stop avoiding the point. They did horrendously terrible things to other people in the belief that they were doing the right thing. Like the "true Christians" wanting to enact draconian laws with disproportional punishments because they think that's what their god wants, because they think that's what the Bible says.
Yet again, just exactly what does the Bible actually say about abortion? You keep avoiding that simple question.

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Faith 
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Message 1314 of 5796 (851026)
04-18-2019 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1312 by dwise1
04-18-2019 2:10 PM


Oh Gosh another Sturdy Leftism: I "hate" Catholics? No, I feel sorry for them that they are still in thrall to the Antichrist Pope. Scripture tells them to "come out of her My people," the "her" being the Harlot Church astride the Beast in the Book of Revelation. The Reformers along with half of Europe came out of her, so should the rest of them.

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Faith 
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Message 1315 of 5796 (851027)
04-18-2019 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1313 by dwise1
04-18-2019 2:13 PM


I don't have the patience to deal with your Catholic propaganda right now. Perhaps if you provided whatever bogus evidence you can drum up I can come back to it later.

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ooh-child
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Message 1316 of 5796 (851033)
04-18-2019 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1307 by Faith
04-18-2019 1:34 PM


Point flying right over Faith's head
Didn't read a bit of it, did you? What a silly, sad old woman you appear to be.

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Message 1317 of 5796 (851036)
04-18-2019 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1304 by Faith
04-18-2019 1:02 PM


I posted evidence earlier that you conveniently did not even bother to read. There is plenty more. If you were interested in actual facts and data instead of propaganda you would have taken the time to read what I posted and do research on your own. Instead, because her book and her movie align with your mindset you accept it unquestioningly.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 1318 of 5796 (851048)
04-18-2019 3:20 PM


--Percy

  
dwise1
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Message 1319 of 5796 (851050)
04-18-2019 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1315 by Faith
04-18-2019 2:16 PM


I don't have the patience to deal with your Catholic propaganda right now. Perhaps if you provided whatever bogus evidence you can drum up I can come back to it later.
It's just straight forward widely known history. Are you really that ignorant of basic history? Or do you just hate reality so much?
And we both know -- everybody here knows -- that no amount of evidence would suffice, since you willfully ignore all evidence that you wouldn't like. You have even admitted that you simply refuse to read any of it.
So here you are basically the arrogant Gentile demanding Pharisee Rabbi Hillel to explain the entire Torah to him while he stood on one foot *, only you want me to present you with the entirety of history. Why would any reasonable person (eg, me) go through such a Herculean effort for an unreasonable person (ie, you) who would just ignore it all in yet another act of willful stupidity?
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FOOTNOTE *:
When that Gentile tried that on Rabbi Shammai, he grabbed a stick and chased the fool away. Rabbi Hillel responded with the Golden Rule:
quote:
What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn.
That was in 20 BCE, a full half century before Jesus purportedly repeated that Pharisee teaching circa 30 CE.
I had always thought that it was Rabbi Hillel who was supposed to stand on one foot, but apparently it was the Gentile, so his demand was for an extremely short yet complete answer. This is suggested by a detail on the Knesset Menorah which shows the Gentile standing on one foot, not Rabbi Hillel.
So unlike Faith, I am willing to learn something and am glad when I do.

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dwise1
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Message 1320 of 5796 (851053)
04-18-2019 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1314 by Faith
04-18-2019 2:14 PM


Oh Gosh another Sturdy Leftism: I "hate" Catholics? No, I feel sorry for them that they are still in thrall to the Antichrist Pope. Scripture tells them to "come out of her My people," the "her" being the Harlot Church astride the Beast in the Book of Revelation. The Reformers along with half of Europe came out of her, so should the rest of them.
Yes, you do. You have expressed that repeatedly and vehemently for years on this forum. Unlike you, we read what's been posted, so we know you far too well.
And your hypocrisy is not lost on us either. You decry the "Harlot Church astride the Beast" (sounds like something straight out of a Chick Pubs tract, though done much better in National Lampoon's Son-O-God Comics) , yet you yourself follow and worship The Beast, which is who Trump clearly is according to the Bible (not that you would ever read it; you don't even know what it actually says about abortion). I'll bet you even wear the Sign of the Beast on your forehead (ie, have and wear a MAGA cap).

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