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JonF
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Message 1620 of 5796 (851878)
05-03-2019 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1613 by Faith
05-03-2019 1:52 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
What sanctuary cities are doing is not illegal. If it were Trump would have prosecuted them long ago.
If you want to argue that their inactions are illegal, cite the specific applicable law.

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JonF
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Message 1623 of 5796 (851885)
05-03-2019 8:29 PM


Nazis conspired to attack at Charlottesville
Founder of California white power group, another member plead guilty in Charlottesville riot
Two key members of a white supremacist group based in Southern California pleaded guilty Friday to conspiring to riot for their roles in provoking violence at a deadly far-right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017....
“These avowed white supremacists traveled to Charlottesville to incite and commit acts of violence,” Thomas Cullen, U.S. attorney for the Western District of Virginia, said in a statement. “Although the First Amendment protects an organization’s right to express abhorrent political views, it does not authorize senseless violence in furtherance of a political agenda.”
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JonF
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Message 1633 of 5796 (851911)
05-04-2019 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1625 by Coragyps
05-03-2019 10:29 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Keep they hallucinations straight. It was the Chine army, not ISIS.

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JonF
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Message 1650 of 5796 (851946)
05-04-2019 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1641 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:55 AM


Re: Summary of the thread
One side was Nazis and people who chose to march with Nazis at an event organized by Nazis and advertised as an event for Nazis.
The other side weren't any of that.
That's how the crowd divides.

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JonF
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Message 1652 of 5796 (851952)
05-05-2019 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1651 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:36 PM


Re: Summary of the thread
One side was Nazis and people who chose to march with Nazis at an event organized by Nazis and advertised as an event for Nazis.
The other side weren't any of that.
Trump called Nazis fine people once and mildly condemned them twice.
The video shows it clearly. No matter how much you want to deny it.
Note that the white supremacists and Nazis think he's one of them. What could cause that?
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JonF
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Message 1661 of 5796 (851969)
05-05-2019 2:41 PM
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05-05-2019 1:42 PM


Re: Charlottesville continued
When you have 100 Nazis and 100 people who choose to march with Nazis at an event organized by Nazis and advertised as an event for Nazis you have 200 Nazis.
Why do white supremacists and Nazis think Trump is one of them?

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JonF
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Message 1680 of 5796 (852011)
05-06-2019 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1669 by marc9000
05-05-2019 5:23 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
That's allowing local communities to let undocumented immigrants to vote in LOCAL elections. Allowing them to vote in state or Federal elections would be prima facie unconstitutional.
I specified state or Federal elections for a reason. Fail.
Of course right wingers are big fans of local control, except when the locals don't do what the right wingers want them to.
BTW you neglected to specify "other problems".
You obviously mentioned literacy to slur them as poorly educated. Literacy in their native language belies that.
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JonF
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Message 1681 of 5796 (852012)
05-06-2019 9:29 AM
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05-05-2019 1:51 PM


Re: Charlottesville continued
Any ***** can tell what Trump meant,
Agreed.
It's obvious that you are mindlessly repeating unfounded dogma.

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JonF
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Message 1684 of 5796 (852016)
05-06-2019 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1671 by marc9000
05-05-2019 5:30 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Then why are they denied the right and duty to refuse to enforce unfunded government mandates of auto emissions testing which will certainly harm their economies?
Guess you slept through civics class.
Federal authorities enforce Federal laws such as immigration law and anti-pollution law. State and local authorities enforce state law. Local authorities also enforce local laws. State and local authorities may not override Federal law, but are not required to enforce it.
State and local authorities are not responsible for or required to enforce Federal law.
Got it now?
On the subject of economic harm,
Pick one.
You really need to hone your reading comprehension. i asked for a law, not an editorial.
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JonF
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Message 1685 of 5796 (852019)
05-06-2019 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1673 by marc9000
05-05-2019 9:19 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
If a poll were taken among land owners at the border, I think it would be pretty lopsided, concerning who favors, or doesn't favor, more border security including the wall.
About the wall you're certainly correct. It's been done.
But you won't like it.
Look here

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JonF
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Message 1686 of 5796 (852020)
05-06-2019 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1682 by Faith
05-06-2019 9:39 AM


Re: Charlottesville continued
"There were fine people on both sides."
One side was Nazis. The other side weren't.

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JonF
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Message 1693 of 5796 (852039)
05-06-2019 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1687 by Faith
05-06-2019 10:13 AM


Re: Charlottesville continued
Trump said something that supports white supremacists. That's part of why the white supremacists think he"s one of them.
He's too stupid and/or ignorant to comprehend the effect of his words. No matter what Trump thinks his words support Nazis.

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JonF
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Message 1694 of 5796 (852040)
05-06-2019 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1691 by Faith
05-06-2019 10:41 AM


Re: We're still talking as if pro-slavery was a legitimate position?
Demonstrating truth is the perfect defense against accusations of libel. (Slander is spoken, libel is written.)

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JonF
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Message 1697 of 5796 (852048)
05-06-2019 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1675 by marc9000
05-05-2019 9:36 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Not "just like". Letting undocumented immigrants vote in local elections is easily accommodated in our current system. Letting them vote in higher elections would be a major upheaval in our system, including at least one Constitutional amendment. A humongously gigantic step, not at all comparable to changing "two hours" to "any flight".
BTW, we do notice you have no evidence of either intent to let undocumented immigrants vote in all elections or liberals alleged love of incrementalism.
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JonF
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Message 1743 of 5796 (852168)
05-07-2019 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1740 by Faith
05-07-2019 7:35 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Thanks for confirming his rental racism in the 80's. Expected monetary losses are not an excuse for breaking the law. Renting to blacks is part of the business. He formally acknowledged that in the settlement but didn't learn it.
ABE I note that your excuse reeks of racism.
He said the people crossing the border are drug dealers and rapists and murderers. Few if any of them are. I don't suppose you have evidence of how many and what problems they bring with them (anecdotes about individual cases don't address the "how many" part).
We know you won't change your mind about Charlottesville even if God speaks from a burning bush and tells you you're wrong. We did look at your video and made points about it that you ignored. You also made no relevant response to any of the points we raised. It's seriously hypocritical for you to complain about your video.
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