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Message 3501 of 5796 (867079)
11-19-2019 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 3500 by Theodoric
11-19-2019 11:08 PM


Re: More Trump Attack/Insult Tweets
Horowitz is scheduled to testify.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 3634 of 5796 (867512)
11-26-2019 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3633 by Percy
11-26-2019 12:51 PM


Re: More Trump Attack/Insult Tweets
I'm curious if anyone bothers to run Trump's tweets through a fact-checker. As a political moderate, I see Trump's tweets as propaganda to energize his base. My question, as a political moderate, is if there is truth behind some of his insinuations.
And I wonder what percentage of the base reads anything beyond the tweets themselves and a favorite Right Wing News source? Any wise constituent of either political persuasion would do well to watch the media that is the ideological opposite of their core beliefs if only to gain somewhat of a perspective.
Finally, I doubt whether Donald trump even compiles his own tweets these days. He likely has a propaganda minister doing it for him. Not that a Democrat wouldnt do the same thing. Politics can be stressful.
Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 3640 of 5796 (867699)
12-01-2019 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3637 by Percy
11-27-2019 9:04 PM


Realize-Real Eyes- Real Lies
What is surprising, even shocking, is the extremely few number of Republicans who cannot see the lies, or who if they can see them see it in their own best interests to deny them while somehow still being able to live with themselves and sleep at night.
I honestly think that conservatives believe that not everybody is gonna make it in the future. They know that in order for them to make it, some will have to be sacrificed, likely many. They see the handwriting on the wall economically. They are as a consequence willfully ignorant.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 3727 of 5796 (868148)
12-07-2019 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 3726 by Coragyps
12-07-2019 3:32 PM


Authoritarianism Dies A Slow Death. What Replaces It?
We apparently have now evolved to the point that women care to wear clothing to church that invokes temptation among many men. I suppose that is their right. Not that God cares, surely.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 3935 of 5796 (868915)
12-20-2019 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 3934 by PaulK
12-20-2019 3:28 AM


Re: Christianity Today on Impeachment
I'm glad to see Christianity Today take this stand.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 4035 of 5796 (869340)
12-28-2019 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 4030 by Faith
12-28-2019 10:26 AM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
I'm not a supporter, and I want the truth to fully come out. I am less than optimistic regarding politics these days. I am in no hurry to see him impeached only because Pence would not be any better for us. I am a political moderate and do not hate the left as much as my Christian friends seem to do. (Except one who is a self-proclaimed member of the Christian Left )

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 4045 of 5796 (869366)
12-29-2019 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 4036 by dwise1
12-28-2019 4:23 PM


Could Christian Nationalists Handle Being Broke?
dwise1 writes:
But who knows how much Presidential power Pence has not already wielded? Trump and his ego are like that old-old Laugh-In joke: "Blow in my ear and I'll follow you anywhere." In all of Trump's "Christian" posturings and positions, who here wants to bet against Pence not having a hand in them? No, I didn't think so.
As a moderate, many thinks frustrate me. Here is a list:
  • Christian Nationalism--I see the attitude in myself. The US Middle Class is shrinking, we need to become better educated simply to keep pace with the growing middle class in other countries, and the easy solution was TBN and Pat Robertson! The Nationalist Christian mindset makes it ok to be aggressive capitalists. On the one hand, I can see how they slap the Christian label on it. We hear horror stories of socialist regimes such as Venezuala, but we are never shown the stark reality that without education and modernization we simply won't succeed. Americas inner city youth are lulled into complacency through dreams of becoming a rapper or successful YouTube star. Finally, we are marketed the end times philosophy that says that it all doesnt matter anyway because the end is coming and we may as well look and act smart for Jesus. Lots of us were bamboozled.
    Mind you, I am not a creationist (except to say I am a Cosmological Creationist) and I will examine the evidence that contradicts my beliefs and views.
    Jesus *could* come back at any time. I still believe that we humans need Him to fix our broken souls. If I am honest with myself, however, I really want Jesus to come back quickly because I am not succeeding in life and therefore none of these other upstarts are doing anything for Him either...so pull the temple down on all of youse! I fear that Trumps evangelical base wants to grab all that they can before the end(the end of American dominance) comes. That being said, I do still believe that we all are in the last days. The big test for me and others will be if we are strong enough to be hungry poor Christians and remain true to our faith or if we were just in it for the money.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
    "~Thugpreacha
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
    ? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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    Message 4176 of 5796 (869988)
    01-10-2020 11:48 AM
    Reply to: Message 4174 by RAZD
    01-10-2020 10:52 AM


    Fascism, Nationalism, and The Left & Right Strategies
    RAZD writes:
    Personally I think that anyone who profits from the misery of others is the most evil despicable kind of person.
    I know. We just want to stay prosperous, but we are stepping on people to do it. Only God can help this bill get paid. I just hope He considers my needs as much as the needs of the Iraqi people.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
    "~Thugpreacha
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
    ? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
    "You may not like it, but the dog bites both ankles."~Tangle

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    Message 4267 of 5796 (870253)
    01-15-2020 11:15 AM
    Reply to: Message 4263 by Faith
    01-15-2020 7:59 AM


    Re: Fascism, Nationalism, and The Left & Right Strategies
    I have noticed several trends in politics. One of them is that both Democrat and Republican mainstream candidates have all moved farther to the Right. Bernie is about as far left as it gets for those with any public support. And the man is hardly a fascist. From most of what i have studied fascism is more of a nationalist phenomenon rather than a socialist globalist one. On many graphs, communism and fascism...though polar opposites, share some common ground. I can imagine several reasons why a Christian Nationalist fears "The Left" however.
  • diminished private property and capital rights.
  • increased taxation and mandatory social responsibility. (Keyword:Mandatory)
  • diminished exclusivity of Christian exclusivity.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
    "~Thugpreacha
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
    ? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
    "You may not like it, but the dog bites both ankles."~Tangle

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    Phat
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    Message 4830 of 5796 (871338)
    01-31-2020 9:39 PM
    Reply to: Message 4809 by Faith
    01-31-2020 3:06 PM


    Re: Heritage Foundation Senior Analyst on the deficit and Natoinal Debt
    The point is that they cant touch those expenses--debt or no debt. You and i depend on social security to keep us from being homeless.

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.lvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott

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    Phat
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    Message 4861 of 5796 (871418)
    02-02-2020 1:50 PM
    Reply to: Message 4859 by dwise1
    02-02-2020 12:27 PM


    Moderator Interaction Concerning Faith
    Well, I wouldn't go quite that far. A case can be made to support your accusations of how you view her character, and I know that we here at EvC stick around here for a reason, rather than preferring other hangouts, other people, and a host of brand new personality quirks to learn about.
    The reason that I am responding to you this way at this moment in time has a lot to do with my own personality quirks, the people and events in my life at this moment whom I interact with and learn more about, and the goal(goals) that I have in mind for my own life.
    I wrote my response to you last night, after getting off a typical work shift at Safeway and dealing with many customers and a few shoplifters. One shoplifter, a regular, came in the store with an empty backpack and left with it full...bulging even. That quite naturally upset me--I take it personally when these events happen. This morning, I half-listened and half snoozed through one of the audio podcasts that I listen to on Alexa while I snooze. It was
    What If I Find Other People Boring? and it stimulated my thinking on how a humanist views responsibility towards effective communication versus how myself, as a believer, traditionally viewed it and how I *should* view it--what issues within myself do I need work on. So then I come in the living room this morning and review EvC responses and here we are! I will answer you in my non-admin mode, as I feel that EvCs rules are a shared product of regular interaction between longtime Forum members and that we all violate them at times--thus no need for a Moderators position on this.
    She repeats the same sick and demented pattern over and over and over
    Yes she does. I do the same thing. Some of us are more adaptable in our conversations than are others. I personally see Faith improving in some areas, but I note your reaction.
    When she does "engage", she does so by lying about what we tell her, citing sources who are lying, citing valid sources whom she then misrepresents and lies about, and/or by spouting a new set of liies.
    Again, its all about interpretation. Have you ever heard the advice to "put yourself in the other guys shoes"? Think about what she is trying to defend, whether or not she fully understands it, and how she views her opponents here at the Forum and in conversations. I feel that many of us (myself included) get stuck in patterns and do not critically think about our positions. This leads to repetition.
    Then when she finally finds her position untenable, she concocts some lame excuse to run away, including her eyesight (which just conveniently happens to go out at that point), somebody looked at her wrong so now she's too upset, she arbitrarily decides to ignore the facts...
    See, now this is where you get too personal. It is no lie that her eyesight is bad, and this is a personal attack. Love your enemies and adversaries. Heck, I even prayed for that darn shoplifter who caused my hackles to rise. It's not easy, but is it not basic good advice?
    By the way, I read a lot of the stuff on your page and find the overall effort commendable. I may not agree with everything you say, but I appreciate your effort to get it out there, sort of in a public diary form.
    Edited by Thugpreacha, : sub title

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide

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    Message 5001 of 5796 (872161)
    02-21-2020 11:15 AM
    Reply to: Message 4999 by Faith
    02-21-2020 9:40 AM


    Trump In Colorado Springs: Fox
    They had a rally in Colorado Springs, 50 miles from where I live just this last week. I noticed how many of the audience were white people. Colorado Springs is a conservative evangelical bastion, however. Trump knows how to market himself and he knows who to market to. You won't see many minorities, LGBTQ folks, or Islamic people at his rallies, but I'm sure they have a few tokens scattered around. My conservative Christian Facebook friends are all hyped up about the president.
    Here are some of their comments:
    quote:
    "President Trump honors God and Our Lord Jesus Christ. His family went to church every Sunday. One of his main goals is to make it right with Israel. Which he did."
    They see the political Left as a bunch of secularly educated globalists with no clue as to what and why they hold their beliefs dear. Personally I think humans all are the same in nature. No one group is any eviler than any other group. The German people in WW II were no worse than the current crop of Americans are now. Word to the wise.

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide

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    Message 5064 of 5796 (872352)
    02-26-2020 1:49 PM
    Reply to: Message 5062 by PaulK
    02-26-2020 1:37 PM


    Re: This One's For You
    Faith,replying to PaulK writes:
    so you can't answer me with the opinions of left-wingers.
    paulK writes:
    Well, yes we can because they are a good deal more trustworthy than your opinions.
    It has been my experience that fake news and false "prophets" exist in both the Left and the Right. Personally I fear globalist socialism from the extreme left and I fear Fascism from the extreme Right. Hence why I try to be more moderate.

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide

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    Message 5494 of 5796 (873775)
    03-19-2020 11:27 AM
    Reply to: Message 5492 by jar
    03-19-2020 11:11 AM


    Re: It's not contempt for those fools who follow il Donaldo
    There is hope for all of you, waning hope I will admit, but still some hope.
    we say the same thing about you guys!

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide

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    Message 5789 of 5796 (875110)
    04-14-2020 9:53 AM
    Reply to: Message 5787 by frako
    04-13-2020 5:38 PM


    Re: too much quarantine?
    frako writes:
    Anyone coming to the country is quarantined and tested. And hopefully we will soon purge the virus from our population.
    More likely the virus will simply become common and vaccinated. Science alone wont protect us from pestilence.
    But I will leave that conversation for a later faith based discussion.

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott
    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.~Andre Gide

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