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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: Yoyu have to have some knowledge of the histolrical context that most of us do not have, in fact ALL of us these days don't have except those fe3w 3who have carefully studied it, knowledge of how terms are used for instance. I have that knowledge. The founders were very sensitive about foreign interference in US politics. What Trump has done is exactly the thing that they had in mind when they put impeachment into the Constitution. Soliciting foreign governments to investigate political rivals is an affront to everything the founders stood for.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah you want a Marxist misreading of the Constitution of course,whicfh is mostly what we are getting these days anyway. I did not say to exclude any point of view, go back and reqad what I wsaid, but I do want a strong represwentation of the conservative reading because that is 3what nobody ever gets to hear.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: yes it is discriminator. Not to discriminate againat an evil ideology is insanity. If we only allow religions we agree with then we no longer have freedom of religion, nor are we a country that upholds freedom in general.
I have exactly the same attitude t3woard Marxism and all its offshoots in today's Democratic party, Political correctness and so on. There is no Marxism in the Democratic party.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The First Amendment does not give freedom to any belief that threatens the wellbeing of the nation or individuals.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Making up ridiculous fantasies only confirms my point. There is nothing Marxist for instance in accepting that non-citizens are people.
quote: Misrepresentations have no place in honest education. And that is what you want.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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Remember, kids:
When a Muslim commits an act of terrorism, it's because Islam is a cult of death and all Muslims are dangerous fanatics and it's folly to let them run around free. But when anti-immigration right-winger shoots a group of people, he is just an isolated crazy person and is in no way indicative of anything about current American conservatism. And besides, it's still the Democrats' fault.For this generation of far-right nationalists, religion is not a question of ethical conduct; it is purely about identity and peoplehood. -- Jan-Werner Müller
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes, do remember that because despiteyour sarcastic spin thqat is the truth. ISLAM AS AN IDEOLOGY is evil. I've made it clear that there are different relations Muslims have to that ideology but the ideology itself is a murderous evil oppressive tyrannical ideology. CHRISTIQANITY IS ANYTHING BUT so that evil committed in its name is FALSE and a VIOLATION of it. Christianity built the West, it is the basic inspiration for our freedoms. Islam, like Marxism,keeps people in mental and often literal chains. Yes, learn it, it's the truth.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: ISLAM AS AN IDEOLOGY is evil. That's just your opinion. We don't strip people of freedoms based on your opinions.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: The First Amendment does not give freedom to any belief that threatens the wellbeing of the nation or individuals. If I decide that Christianity threatens the wellbeing of the nation and individuals, can we ban the immigration of Christians and ban the religion?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's just my opinion???
Gosh maybe so. I am of the opinion that if an ideology prescribes taking over the entire world to the obedience of its own dictates that's evil. I am of the opinion that if an ideology prescribes treating those who do not accept its tenets should be specially taxed and treated like second or third class citizens, as "dhimmis" in Muslim nations, there they can be run off the sidewalk to make room for a Muslim believer, and I am of the opinion that an ideology that prescribes killing Jews and Christians and anybody else who rejects the tenets of that ideology is evil, yes I am of that opinion. And so should you be.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not if you personally decide that but of coruse if a corrupt government decides that of course you can do that. It wsould be an evil act, it would be a denial of everything America stands for but of course you can do that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So some are now saying Saudi Arabia should have the responsibility for taking care of the costs and damage done by their own citizen.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: That's just my opinion??? Yep.
I am of the opinion that if an ideology prescribes taking over the entire world to the obedience of its own dictates that's evil. You just described Christian conservative politics in the US. They have been trying to force their beliefs on the populace for centuries now.
I am of the opinion that if an ideology prescribes treating those who do not accept its tenets should be specially taxed and treated like second or third class citizens, In this very thread you are demanding that Muslims be treated as second or third class citizens. Yet another strike against Christian conservative politics.
and I am of the opinion that an ideology that prescribes killing Jews and Christians and anybody else who rejects the tenets of that ideology is evil, It was Christians who supported the Holocaust.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Yes, do remember that because despiteyour sarcastic spin thqat is the truth. ISLAM AS AN IDEOLOGY is evil. I've made it clear that there are different relations Muslims have to that ideology but the ideology itself is a murderous evil oppressive tyrannical ideology. CHRISTIQANITY IS ANYTHING BUT so that evil committed in its name is FALSE and a VIOLATION of it. Christianity built the West, it is the basic inspiration for our freedoms. Islam, like Marxism,keeps people in mental and often literal chains. Yes, learn it, it's the truth. Islam literally picked up where the Old Testament left off. It just retained all of the gore and punishment whereas Christianity branched off to a more kinder and gentler belief about God. But as we've seen with the Crusades and Inquisition, the human heart is capable of all kinds of evil under the justifications of religion. Islam is a shit religion... just like, well, all of them... but Islam is not so different than the one you worship. The Qur'an even references and reveres the People of the Book (Christians and Jews practicing non-pagan beliefs). The reality is that there's more overlap between you and a Muslim than an atheist and a Muslim. They believe in the subservience of women, as do you. They believe homosexuality is wicked, as do you. They believe that sin is an abomination, as do you. They believe atheists are wicked, as do you... You seem to delight in the thought of God's righteous judgments on sinners, as do they... on and on and on. I mean, hell, they're out there doing the wet work Christians no longer have the stomach for. But you should also know that just as there are different kinds of Christians, there really are different kinds of Muslims. There are lukewarm Muslims, Muslims that only follow it for nostalgic reasons, some very moderate, some very hardcore, some that use it to justify their sociopathy. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
This is a link to the full text of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Update on Impeachment.
Faith writes: Limbaugh is also good on Pelosi's speech yesterday. Didn't we think this supposed withholding of aid by Trump was to force an investigation of Biden's son? So how come now she's saying it was really about benefiting Russia. Limbaugh is lying to you. Pelosi doesn't utter the word "Russia" even once. I refer you to Pelosi's text linked to above.
Mark Levin last night was good at exposing how Pelosi's understanding of American history is bogus too. No it did not start in 1776, that was actually the result of many years of offenses by Britain that were being protested in America. Marc Levin is lying to you, too. You're not clear precisely what Levin claimed Pelosi said, but she didn't say anything incorrect about American history. I refer you to Pelosi's text linked to above.
I think we all need a good solid education in the Constitution too from what I hear. You only think that because you're listening to people who are lying to you.
I don't feel I have a good understanding of it either. People like Limbaugh and Levin are counting on that quality in their listeners.
I think we all need a strong presentation, with lots of presenters and plenty of argument, to teach us what we really need to know so we can judge rightly when its being violated. Clearly there's someone present who would benefit from such a presentation.
The House Democrats are saying Trump is violating it. All the conservatives I listen to, many of them lawyers and Constitutional scholars, are saying it's the House Democrats who are violating it. Again, they're lying to you. You can prove it to yourself. This is everything the Constitution has to say about impeachment:
The above is a very few number of words considering the length of the Constitution. Please explain to us what parts the Democrats are violating. --Percy
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