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Message 3961 of 5796 (868992)
12-21-2019 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 3940 by Faith
12-20-2019 1:29 PM


Re: Christianity Today on Impeachment -- just another tool of the Left
Faith writes:
If you're going to quote me please do it correctly.
I did.
Faith writes:
I was talking about the Christianity Today article and nothing else...
And I was talking about the silliness of your phrase, "lowest point ever". It's a silly, thoughtless, childish exaggeration.
Faith writes:
... and I did not say anything about the "greatest witch hunt ever."
And I didn't say you did. We all know that Trump said it. I was comparing your silly, thoughtless, childish phraseology with Trump's.
Faith writes:
Please sharpen up your reading skills.
Please take your own advice.

"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
-- Rudyard Kipling

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PaulK
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Message 3962 of 5796 (869001)
12-21-2019 12:38 PM


Deplorable
An Iowa woman is charged with attempted murder for intentionally running over a 14 year old girl. Her explanation was that the victim looked Mexican.
BBC

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Message 3963 of 5796 (869003)
12-21-2019 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3962 by PaulK
12-21-2019 12:38 PM


Re: Deplorable
But how does this compare to the vast number people who are run over because the look like patriotic white Bible believing Christians who love America? They're the real persecuted minority.

For this generation of far-right nationalists, religion is not a question of ethical conduct; it is purely about identity and peoplehood. -- Jan-Werner Mller

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Faith 
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Message 3964 of 5796 (869004)
12-21-2019 4:05 PM


Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
Yeah I heard this yesterday on the radio and yeah I knew the EvC lefties would fall for it.
Percy on the Trump Bashing Thread, in Message 3697
Putin has Trump's Back
From Salon magazine: Vladimir Putin attacks Democrats for made up impeachment charges as he defends President Trump
How much evidence do Trump supporters need before they understand that there is an improper relationship between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
Lemme see. There was absolutely ZERO evidence of any collusion between Trump and Russia found ever so far, but for some reason Putin decides to throw a monkey wrench into our ongoing political debacle and THAT is now evidence? How much evidence do we need? Well, some would help, any perhaps.
This is just Putin interfereing in our political life as he always does, and it is not FOR Trump, it's to wreak havoc. All the evidence we've had to this point, that of course the Left is totally blind to, is that Russia, as well as Ukraine, interfered in our election on behalf of Hillary, not Trump.
Hillary paid for a "dossier" for instance, from a British Trump-hater, who got it from Russian sources, that was intended to discredit Trump. Not Hillary, Trump. Lessee, Barr and/or Durham will have been tracking down this information but of course we're starting to get the usual Lefty character assassination of those worthies too. Gosh the Left is really predictable. Funny our homegrown lefties overlook it. And there were plenty of other shenanigans aimed at undermining the Trump campaign that should also come out, if some zealous Marxist doesn't literally assassinate Barr and/or Durham first of course.
With Putin as with the Ukraine, Trump has enlisted foreign help for personal gain regarding his political standing and his chances in the 2020 election.
Right, half the country is so stupid we voted for a guy who has only his own self interests at heart. I kind of think maybe some more will be added to our number for this next round because it's so clear that whatever you think of Trump's personality he has America first in his heart and has even sacrificed for it.
Trump supporters by and large, from rank and file supporters all the way up to members of Congress and of his administration, seem incapable of seeing the snake in the room.
Gosh the snake is huge in our eyes, it's the LEFT. It's coilied around the House and around the vast majority of the media and has half the country mesmerized.
They're unable to look at this from the opposite perspective, to ask themselves, "If Putin defended Obama would we be okay with that?
Well he did and we aren't. A lot of this stuff against Trump has come straight out of Obama's camp anyway. I sure hope that comes out if they don't assassinate the messengers.
We wouldn't, of course. So why are we okay with Putin defending Trump?"
Nobody I know of is okay with that, but we also know Putin wouldn't be defending him now if it weren't for the purpose of giving you Lefties more ammunition against us. THAT's where the blindness really is. How come YOU can't "look at this from the opposite perspective?"
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK
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Message 3965 of 5796 (869017)
12-22-2019 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 3964 by Faith
12-21-2019 4:05 PM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
Trump is fine with Putin defending him
Guess he must be a Gullible Leftist

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vimesey
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Message 3966 of 5796 (869018)
12-22-2019 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 3965 by PaulK
12-22-2019 4:41 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
Stop using logic and reason all the time - you know it undermines your case ;-)

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Faith 
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Message 3967 of 5796 (869019)
12-22-2019 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 3965 by PaulK
12-22-2019 4:41 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
What Putin said was quite correct, but since there is no other sign of his favoring Trump it suggests to me a political maneuver to support the Leftist line about his involvement. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps he's making up to Trump and simply making an honest observation. Or maybe there could be other motivations I'm not thinking of.

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Message 3968 of 5796 (869020)
12-22-2019 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 3967 by Faith
12-22-2019 7:35 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
quote:
What Putin said was quite correct, but since there is no other sign of his favoring Trump it suggests to me a political maneuver to support the Leftist line about his involvement.
The GRU hacking the DNC and releasing the material to Wikileaks is very strong support indeed.
The impeachment is, of course, fully justified by Trump withholding foreign aid for his own personal benefit - and the obstruction that attempted to cover it up.

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Message 3969 of 5796 (869023)
12-22-2019 8:25 AM
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12-22-2019 7:50 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
All you have is jaundiced interpretations of the facts, the facts themselves are something else. There is no support whatever for Russian support of Trump, it's all for Hillary.
Trump did nothing for his own personal benefit, that is outrageous slander/libel or whatever the correct term is It's all an outrageous misreading of the transcript which had nothing in it of that sort at all. Whether this outrage can ever be corrected or not I don't know, but it's a horrific miscarriage of justice. You and other Trump haters read all this into the transcript. It is not there.

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jar
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Message 3970 of 5796 (869024)
12-22-2019 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 3969 by Faith
12-22-2019 8:25 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
Il Donaldo tweeted about liking the latest support from Putin.

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Faith 
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Message 3971 of 5796 (869025)
12-22-2019 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 3970 by jar
12-22-2019 8:36 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
Well, it's correct so why shouldn't he like it?

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PaulK
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Message 3972 of 5796 (869026)
12-22-2019 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 3969 by Faith
12-22-2019 8:25 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
quote:
All you have is jaundiced interpretations of the facts, the facts themselves are something else.
The DNC was hacked. Emails were released to Wikileaks. Roger Stone from the Trump campaign got involved in the release of the emails. All investigators identified the Russians as the source of the hack, some specifically identifying a GRU unit and the officers responsible. These are all facts.
quote:
There is no support whatever for Russian support of Trump, it's all for Hillary.
It is clearly true that there is considerable support for the claim that theRussians backed Trump. Similar support for the claim that they backed Clinton is absent.
quote:
Trump did nothing for his own personal benefit, that is outrageous slander/libel or whatever the correct term is It's all an outrageous misreading of the transcript which had nothing in it of that sort at all
Both the investigations requested were in Trump’s personal interest, with Trump’s personal lawyer directing events. Neither came through the DoJ, which would be the normal route This is also fact.
quote:
Whether this outrage can ever be corrected or not I don't know, but it's a horrific miscarriage of justice
Yes, we know that your idea of injustice is the exposure of a Republican’s misdeeds, and your idea of justice is a Democrat being convicted on trumped-up charges.
quote:
You and other Trump haters read all this into the transcript. It is not there.
It clearly is there. That is objective fact.

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Percy
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Message 3973 of 5796 (869027)
12-22-2019 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 3947 by jar
12-20-2019 4:00 PM


Re: Christianity Today on Impeachment -- just another tool of the Left
jar writes:
Yet the reality is that the specific laws broken are listed in the Impeachment documents as well as the specific acts that were contrary to those laws Faith.
The articles of impeachment do not mention any specific laws broken. They deal with Constitutional issues of high crimes and misdemeanors that make Trump "a threat to national security and the Constitution,...self-governance and the rule of law." (Read the Articles of Impeachment Against President Trump - The New York Times)
He *has* broken laws, but he hasn't been charged under those laws in the impeachment articles.
The House wanted to keep the articles of impeachment focused and narrow, so they didn't include the breaking of certain laws, though many people were pushing for broader articles that included some of the Mueller charges and other things.
When the Constitution was written no laws existed, just a framework for creating them. The impeachable offenses enumerated in the Constitution that the House relied upon are constitutional in nature, not legal.
Pelosi is trying to use withholding the articles of impeachment until satisfactory rules and processes have been negotiated with the Senate. McMconnell sees this as comical since he doesn't believe Pelosi has any leverage because the Senate doesn't want the articles anyway.
But McMconnell misjudges Trump. Trump doesn't want these articles hanging over his head. He wants a big show trial in the Senate where witnesses like Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and the whistleblower are called. The longer Pelosi withholds he articles the more pressure Trump will place on McConnell to get things going.
--Percy

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jar
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Message 3974 of 5796 (869028)
12-22-2019 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 3971 by Faith
12-22-2019 8:39 AM


Re: Putin on Trump's side? Oh you Gullible Lefties
He also liked the Russians hacking the DNC servers and leaking the info.
And he likes the Russian Fake News Ukraine story.
He also has asked China to investigate the Bidens.
The deplorable looser is still just a deplorable looser Faith, always will be. Could not even win the popular vote in the last Presidential election. The man is simply a failure morally, intellectually and in honesty.

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Percy
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Message 3975 of 5796 (869029)
12-22-2019 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 3952 by Faith
12-20-2019 5:47 PM


Re: Christianity Today on Impeachment -- just another tool of the Left
Faith writes:
NO LAWS WERE BROKEN, it's all a hoax, a fraud, a diabolical partisan scheme to destroy the nation.
Well, in that case Trump has nothing to worry about. He need only push for a full and fair trial in the Senate where all his top aides testify under oath and reveal the hoax and fraud and diabolical partisan scheme to destroy the nation, thereby saving the nation and destroying the Democratic party.
And yet he doesn't do that. For some reason he's hiding behind a wall of total noncooperation (also known as obstruction of justice), allowing none of his top aides to testify about his innocence, nor making available any exonerating documents.
--Percy

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