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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"Americas?"
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Ye well someonoe made a typo, but on the graph itself it says the united states. Still the graph is accurate. You are the second worst polluters so you need to do something.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We've done a LOT over the years, our own environment is quite clean. Sorry, it's China's turn and India's.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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Your still the number 2 polluter by volume, india does not come close. Per person you are number 1. And you haven't done anything. China outpaces you in green energy production by far. They are aiming to go 35% green by 2030 and are well underway, while you want to relive the glory days of coal.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined:
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Dammit! It's not a typo! The Americas includes us for one. We're here, we're dirty too. But only on a per capita basis.
The whole childish nonsense of "He's worse than I am." is going to kill us all.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Amuse me Faith:
4. Political denial Climate change deniers argue we cannot take action because other countries are not taking action. But not all countries are equally guilty of causing current climate change. For example, 25% of the human-produced CO in the atmosphere is generated by the US, another 22% is produced by the EU. Africa produces just under 5%. I'm not allowed to call this a pack of lles, am I? But that's what it is. "Other countries?" No, SPECIFIC counries, such as China and India, which are major polluters. THEY are the ones that need to do something. And the other big fat lle is presenting this information PER CAPITA. So the US looks like a big polluter and China doesn't. Now THAT IS a big fat political LlE. This should be measured in terms of the percentage of actual contribution to the problem by nation and by that standard we've done our part but China and India and others have not. So you are saying that we can't take action because other countries are not taking action. ROFLOL Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is a huge cost to the economy to do what the Left requires of us and there is no need since we've already done lots for the environment and continue to do it. We have no reason to sacrifice our economy for the Left's political ends (which are clearly aimed at destroying America by whatever means possible). Go bug China.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
We've done a LOT over the years, our own environment is quite clean.
Trump's undoing what we've achieved as fast as he can. Redirect Notice
quote: Sorry, it's China's turn and India's
And they are stepping up to the plate after we dropped the ball. India Announces Stronger Climate Action | NRDC
quote: China is on track to meet its climate change goals nine years early | New Scientist
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Addressing climate change is addressing an existential threat. Every year we delay it gets more expensive. It's costing us many billions per7hear.
China is doing their part. Trump is fighting to make the problem worse.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Well fuck the planet, fuck the future, it costs too much. We have to pay for wars and let the billionaires play, that is more important than our children's future.
You people offend me. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Clean energy isn't necessarily a cost to the economy. Ask a company that sells solar panels and the people they employ. It is a huge cost to the economy to do what the Left requires of us...."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Again you amuse me Faith, right on cue ...
It is a huge cost to the economy to do what the Left requires of us and there is no need since we've already done lots for the environment and continue to do it. We have no reason to sacrifice our economy for the Left's political ends (which are clearly aimed at destroying America by whatever means possible). Go bug China. quote: So still using bad/wrong arguments. I'll gladly donate 1% of my income to fight climate change, in fact I have already donated significantly more than that to help make up for self-centered and selfish people that want to wallow in coal ash, CO2 etc. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
What does it mean to be "in every facet an American. Roosevelt said it, and it would be difficult to ask him, but I'd say that it's a detriment to the well being and sustainability of the U.S. to have a confusion of languages, to have more and more inhabitants who know little or nothing of U.S. history and foundings.
There are financial aid packages for those granted asylum or refugee status. A refugee can get $325/month for each adult and $200/month for each child for eight months, and other benefits for longer. Those granted asylum can get food stamps and Medicaid and other benefits. Is that what you're talking about? What is your objection to these programs? $22 trillion in debt. And the incentive it gives its receivers to vote for Democrats.
Look at it this way. How well do most people do in life who were raised in poverty? Many U.S. soldiers who helped win WW2 were raised in poverty.
How well do most people do who were raised in households with average incomes? With very good incomes? In rich families? Rich families? A lot of spoiled kids end up as drug addicts. How well do people do who are raised in families of gay parents? If all these statistics were added up, I think your position would come up short.
Regions like Puerto Rico (actually a territory) or Syria or Afghanistan seems like good reasons for emigration. The biggest problem the U.S. has with illegal immigration is from Mexico and Central America, and Cuba. From socialist / communist governments.
The "free stuff" is at most around $5000 over the course of around a year for refugees and asylum grantees. Hopefully that tiny amount helps enough for them to become familiar and productive and living real lives in their new country. And voting for Democrats.
Anyone purposefully starting brushfires during an exceptionally hot and dry period, especially after all the fire risk warnings, should be arrested, and apparently 24 have. There's nothing to be "delighted" about here. Climate warming has led to Australia experiencing its greater fire risks ever. Anyone trying to dramatize or bring increased attention to climate change by starting dangerous fires should be condemned by everyone, not to mention arrested and tried. "Delight" is a big red flag about climate change in general, climate change advocates simply can't hide it. There is clear enthusiasm among climate change alarmists. They have an obvious incentive to be happy about it, they've made great strides in the past 3 years at increasing fear about it, and the delight is in the political action they hope it brings, either in financial incentives for themselves, or, more commonly, the satisfaction they seek in bringing down successful, active, free people.
marc9000 writes: hint; climate-change corruption has more money and power potential than any other political movement since the beginning of time. Hint: 1) You've never identified this corruption. If you don't understand how a major government takeover of energy production and public use of energy could become corrupted, I'd just ask you to open a history book. But here's a start, the Bill of Rights contains these few phrases, directed at Congress;
quote: U.S. history doesn't seem to indicate that there were scores of people asking "What, what???? Was evidence do founders have to not trust Congress? Are they not elected by the people?" The answer is of course, that they knew something about European history, and about human nature.
Every type of human endeavor get touched by corruption at at least some point. Trump was corrupt with his charity. Does that mean we should cease all human endeavors? It means we should very carefully watch government ones.
Again, if you've got any evidence of this corruption, let's hear it. You've said this in previous posts, been challenged on it, and have been unable to name anything. Name the corruption this time, else we'll know you're just making it up. That's all on corruption possibilities, and the cost it could have, for now. I'd like to see if any of my other opponents would care to enlighten you, or pile on me. Could be a nice, additional gauge on liberal dishonesty.
AOC was not making up information. She presented the best evidence from climate change research which says that within not too many years we'll reach a tipping point beyond which nothing much we do will help. The time to act is now. I think a greater tipping point will come concerning increasing, unsustainable U.S. debt. Though everyone I ask runs and hides from the question, there's little doubt that one major "solution" to climate change is the discontinuation of the use of older fossil fuel equipment, from lawnmowers, to construction equipment, to older cars and trucks. I don't believe a country with $22 trillion of debt can afford to waste useful products on a huge scale that would be required to make any difference in climate, or satisfy the hate and jealousy of so many idle Americans who orgasm at the thought of new government commands.
marc9000 writes: But, as I've said before, I don't think we're going to see another Democrat president in our lifetimes. I don't know how long you expect to live, but I'll take that bet. How much you willing to put up? I'm not feeling as optimistic today, I'd better concede that one.
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Except that Schrubbia and Trumpy Dumbty have both increased the size of government more than Obama or Clinton. I'll let that one pass, but thanks for saying it! And 5 green dots too!
A fake news piece trying to make GOP fascism acceptable to their base. Worked for you. Yes it did, since you didn't address one bit of it.
marc9000 writes: It's always the same, they love government's attacks on the "rich", believing the rich will dutifully knuckle under to government mandates, make sacrifices, and keep on producing and supplying employment for them. What happens more often than not, is "the rich", being much smarter than government agents, find a way to satisfy government mandates by raising their costs not only enough to cover the mandates, but to include a nice little raise for themselves, at the increasing expense of the public. Like the health insurance companies did. VERY, VERY GOOD! If the government wouldn't have meddled, the health insurance companies wouldn't have profited from it. I'll be keeping an eye out for another brilliant flash from you, sometime in the next..... 5 years or so I hope.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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I think a greater tipping point will come concerning increasing, unsustainable U.S. debt
Complain to the Republicans. And their massive giveaways to the rich. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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