The Right Side of the News

Ah, the bogeyman of Obama again. To you the world would be a much better place if Obama had just bombed and assassinated a little more. To you everything is leftist propaganda. To everyone else the evidence of the past three years points to a president who is rash and impulsive, not to mention uninformed. Ask him what clean coal is sometime. Probably because he doesn't appreciate the gravity of the mistake he is making. Ah, yes, the media, another bogeyman. Everyone's against Trump and hates Trump for no reason at all. It has nothing to do with his displays of incompetence, inexperience, ignorance, recklessness and ill-considered actions. Such a command you have of goings on within our intelligence services. How did you come to know this? How did they hide this from Robert Mueller, who indicted a bunch of Russians based on intelligence information? Please tell us, we're all dying to know. I had no doubt your favorite bogeyperson would make an appearance sooner or later. Did you know that Hillary shot JR? Trump is the most scary president ever to have his finger on the nuclear button.--Percy

Based on what? More wishful thinking? Got any facts you'd like to mention supporting your viewpoint? Really? Then I guess this news from just last month must be fake: https://www.cnbc.com/...ing-action-new-strategic-weapon.html No, it wasn't the original problem, and it's unlikely to be the last we see of missiles fired toward Japan: North Korean missiles again flying over Japan 'only a matter of time,' experts say | The Japan Times Why should Trump get credit for stuff you're making up?There's the whole Internet out there. Look stuff up and say something true more often than by accident.--Percy

If Trump actually thinks this then he must be projecting, figuring that since he himself is so vulnerable to flattery that other national leaders are, too. Whether Trump thinks this or not it's obviously not working. Putin is playing him like a fiddle, actually has Trump believing the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election and not Russia, and Kim is doing the same thing to Trump that's he's done to previous presidents, ramping tensions up and down as he makes progress toward his nuclear goals. Any particular reason you think this? Or is it something you're making up again? Trump is under a ton of illusions. He knows little and so holds a whole raft of false beliefs. Everyone already knew he possessed poor judgment just from the past three years, and this only cements that opinion. You mean our intelligence agencies do. How much of his daily briefing actually makes its way into his brain is anyone's guess. Aw, you really believe this. That's adorable.Trump is a destabilizing force in the world who has no patience for or understanding of negotiation or diplomacy. America's military might provides him a broad range of error, but not infinite.--Percy

Of course he's falling for it. Every time. After most meetings with Kim he returns to the US announcing what a great success the meeting was. If he wasn't falling for it he would instead caution Americans to keep their expectations low and watch what North Korea does rather than what it says. Oh, right, and dictators like Kim and Putin are just so vulnerable to such transparent tactics. That's good, because he hasn't achieved any. He tweeted how deceived he was to the entire nation. Here it is again. When are you going to wake up and smell reality? That tweet came from someone who was pretty deceived. Oh, yes, such a wonderful deal:

• The ‘giant hole’ in Trump’s new China deal - POLITICO
• Trump's 'phase one' deal with China won't undo trade war damage
  
• Trump’s China Deal Creates Collateral Damage for Tech Firms - The New York Times
• Trump, China Phase One Trade Deal Lacks Enforcement, Could Implode
• https://thehill.com/...-is-a-gift-to-wall-street-and-beijing

Oh, and just one more: Donald Trump says he and China’s Xi Jinping ‘love each other’, phase two trade talks to start ‘very shortly’ | South China Morning PostPoor Kim. Trump falls in and out of love so easily.I know you'll never face it, but the guy's a fool. When did you fall into this irrational love affair with him? Were you an Apprentice fan or something?--Percy

How do you come by this enormous ignorance? Trump never took anything to court. He ordered his administration to provide absolutely no cooperation with the House impeachment investigation, and to honor no subpoenas. No court.The way it would have worked, had the House so chosen, was that when Trump ignored the subpoenas then the House would have taken the Trump administration to court. The House chose not to do that because of the likelihood that the process in the courts would have pushed impeachment out beyond the upcoming election. They took McGahn to court over a year ago, and that case is still pending, as is the case to gain access to grand jury materials from the Mueller investigation. Still the loyal Trumpist, repeating the lie over and over and never providing even a single fact in support.Faith, if you're right then there's a reason you're right. Just tell us that reason. You have an opportunity to set us all straight here. In your reply write, "Due process was NOT followed, and we know this because ."--Percy

Ah, that explains your ignorance. You just like making up bald declarations out of thin air. Trump has lots of victories? Do tell. No, seriously, please tell. Please list all these victories that there are lots of. I can help you out with a few accomplishments, but nothing I would call a victory. He's building his wall by stealing money from other programs. He made a few changes to NAFTA and renamed it USMCA. He's kept most sectors of the economy rolling along. He's reduced refugee and asylum immigration. He's prevented Muslims from a number of countries from entering. Can I include turning the Republican party into a bunch of toadies as an accomplishment?That's my list of Trump accomplishments, where's your list of Trump victories? Until you describe these victories, how wouldn't anyone know whether they're real or not? Maybe they have as much reality as Kasraie's credibility or Trump taking the House to court. At this point all you've got is an empty claim. Clairvoyant now, are we? Finally, a true statement. Again, describe these victories. We can and have described all the criminal stuff with ease, but we're having a bit of a problem coming up with all these victories.Exaggeration? Trump? A very stable genius, if he does say so himself, could never be given to exaggeration.Oh, look who Trump's pissed off now: Veterans of Foreign Wars demands apology from Trump for downplaying brain injuries from Iranian attack | CNN Politics--Percy

I think you're confused. The China deal wasn't limited to agricultural products. It included everything. China has committed to increasing imports from the US by a total of $200 billion over the next two years. That's a stunning increase and would put 2020 ahead of 2017, the last full year before Trump unilaterally imposed tariffs and sparked a trade war. The China deal would be a victory except that it comes with a great many caveats and uncertainties. We'll see what really happens. But let's give you a victory on this one. Again, definitely not a victory, the opposite in fact: https://www.cnbc.com/...ing-action-new-strategic-weapon.html It's been two and a half weeks since the Iran's ballistic missile attack on our Iraqi bases. Two and a half weeks of no attacks or Iran sponsored terrorism is a victory to you? When Iran eventually retaliates, most likely through a proxy that we cannot directly link to Iran, what kind of victory is it then?Wouldn't it be better to drop the sanctions, rejoin the Iran nuclear accord, and build toward making Iran a constructive and non-nuclear member of the global community? I couldn't find hard recent numbers on this one, but I doubt that Trump can chalk this up as a victory. The new policy was expected to begin having an effect around June of last year, but it wasn't expected to drop below year ago levels by now, see this graph from Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States | Washington Examiner: You're one for four. Maybe it would help if you tried keeping up with this stuff. Read or listen to the news instead of to opinion commentators who are trying to get you stirred up, trying to give you a rush of adrenaline that you get hooked on to make you keep coming back to their shows. Fox News is good: Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos--Percy

I think JonF means pretty much what he says. You keep claiming it but never explaining it. You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what constitutes due process in a House impeachment hearing. Both Democrats and Republicans participated in the impeachment process in the House. During the Intelligent Committee hearings if the Democrats got an hour, then the Republicans got an hour. Same-same. The President's team were not invited to the House Intelligence Committee hearings, but they were invited to the Judiciary Committee hearings. They declined. How can you keep saying the same wrong things? Do you actually read what people write, or is it what it looks like, that you just mindlessly type the same stuff over and over again no matter what people say?This has been explained in so many different ways that I can't think of a new way to explain it. I'll just again ask, if you actually believe a trial is what took place in the House, then what do you think is taking place in the Senate right now?And why aren't you demanding that the president be able to confront his accusers in the Senate, like Fiona Hill, Gordon Sondland, David Holmes, Kurt Volker and the rest, instead of backing the Senate's efforts to have a trial with no witnesses or documents? If you feel it was so important that Trump confront his accusers in the House, why not in the Senate where the actual trial is taking place?--Percy

Seriously? You think Trump is going to send in a SEAL team to knock down a statue? Do you really not understand that he meant missiles and bombs and significant destruction? That's a war crime. His point was obvious and doesn't need explaining. Still a war crime.--Percy

The 10th amendment is about where to draw the line between state and federal government. It has nothing to do with where to draw the line between public and private sectors. Repeating the question, no matter what the level of government, where does one draw the line between the services government should provide and those that should remain in the private sector? It's a rhetorical question, food for thought.Thanks for the detailed response, maybe another time.--Percy

This opinion piece appeared in yesterday's USA Today, describing what true patriotism is: No, chaplain, Republicans aren't 'patriots' in Trump impeachment trial. A short excerpt:

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I can no longer keep silent about what I see on social media, in my community, even in my church. Trump's supporters are not bad people, and that is what makes it so hard to swallow. These Republican lawmakers are people who have sold themselves to a circus ringmaster. He is the Pied Piper and they are following him, taking the country with them as they walk into destruction.

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Yes, it's been clear for some time that this distinction isn't apparent to you, and it's become evident that it isn't within my power to help you.Thanks for the reply. All the best.--Percy

And was the top Iranian general. Fake and false claim. Made up. Repeated many times with malicious intent. Depends whether they're Christian, Sunni or Shiite. What is the source of your information? Making things up again? Blatantly incorrect claim. Soleimani opposed ISIS. Think it through. He's Shia and worked with Iraq to push ISIS out, and ISIS is Sunni. This is from Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia:

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Soleimani oversaw Kurdish and Shia militia forces in Iraq, and assisted Iraqi forces that advanced against ISIL in 2014—2015.

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Well, this is vague. There are many Islamic States. Are you referring to ISIS again? Is so then you're repeating the fallacy I just described for you. Soleimani was Shia, ISIS is Sunni. Soleimani was not an ISIS patriot. Your repetitions of this false accusation in the face of numerous corrections has elevated it from mere ignorance to a lie. Describing how assassinating Soleimani was a bad idea because it further destabilized a volatile region is in no way declaring sympathy or sadness at his death. We cry for the world, not for Soleimani.Killing evil people is not always, or even usually, the way to make things better. The Iraq region has been unstable ever since the removal and execution of Hussein, because Hussein had been able to hold together all the disparate factions. The better approach would have been diplomacy to make Iraq a better citizen of the world, for example by ending atrocities. An older example is the death of Tito in Yugoslavia. He was all that held the disparate factions together, and after his death Yugoslavia fragmented into a number of warring states. Yes, the much better approach. We should have used some other target to make our point to Iran. We should also rejoin the Iran nuclear pact and resume negotiations to keep Iran from becoming nuclear power. I get that you don't have a point. The Nazis were a totalitarian regime. Support for them mostly evaporated with defeat and the death of their charismatic leader. Iran isn't like that at all. Even if all their top leaders were somehow assassinated and the country conquered, Iran as a people would remain Shia and mortally opposed to the US. Oh, it's very hard to figure out. Most evil people think they're good. Quoting Trump again: "You think we're so innocent?" No, we haven't, for instance when we helped maintain the Shah of Iran in power by helping to stage a coup back in 1954, then continued to support him in the years after. The tremors from that action continue today. Pure myth. We have been a force for both good and evil during our history. Our most significant redeeming factor is providing an example of democracy for the world. Countries needing help have often turned to us. Now they turn to us and don't understand what they see, what we have become under Trump. No one on the left is saying this. This is you on the right making up stories about the left to place yourself in a positive but false light. How many times must it be explained that Trump isn't accused of any criminal act, though after the articles of impeachment were voted it did emerge that withholding Ukrainian aid broke the law. Fake claim. Yes. Misogyny, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, human rights abuse, wrongful assassination, lying, cheating, subverting American institutions for his own personal gain, coercing foreign governments into helping with his domestic political campaign. Rephrasing this for you, Trump is destroying the foundations of America and will bring us all crashing down very soon if the right doesn't come to its senses. Agreed. The Republicans in the House and Senate have lost their minds and given over complete fealty to Trump. Unanimous legislative votes is what happens in tinpot dictatorships, not healthy democracies. Well said. I think some self examination on your part is called for.--Percy

You seem under some weird misimpression that intelligent discussion involves who can badmouth the best. You have no facts, no knowledge, no understanding, no comprehension, no insights, just hate. There's no substance in your post, nor in almost any of your posts, nothing worth responding to.--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.

Note to self: don't post while on a bender. --Percy