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Message 3737 of 5796 (868176)
12-07-2019 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 3736 by Coragyps
12-07-2019 10:45 PM


Re: More Trump Attack/Insult Tweets
Why in the everlovin’ fuck do you feel the need to star the commentators that you believe to be homosexual? Does that give them some superspecial newscasting ability?
**marc9000 is just signalling his fellow **bigots that there are homosexuals out there in the real world and that **he is helping to identify "them".
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ps ** is to show bigotry

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Message 3814 of 5796 (868347)
12-10-2019 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 3777 by PaulK
12-10-2019 7:46 AM


Trump handlers rush to his side ...
I’m pretty sure that the Founders did think that abuse of power was grounds for impeachment. And if the people who voted for the President approved of that abuse they would consider it grounds for grave concern for the nation. I certainly don’t think they would consider it grounds to halt impeachment.
Curiously, I see Russian handlers rushed in to meet with Trumski as soon as the articles of impeachment were published:
quote:
Trump 'flouting his oath of office' by hosting Russian envoy and 'echoing Putin's propaganda', Democrats say
President Donald Trump's decision to grant Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov an Oval Office meeting is yet another example of his abdication of his responsibilities, several Democratic politicians have told The Independent.
Mr Lavrov arrived at the White House at about 2.15pm on Tuesday afternoon, entering the West Wing after telling reporters he was there to "say good afternoon to the president". The pair met behind closed doors and Mr Lavrov left after about an hour.
It certainly sends a message to Ukraine and our allies who Trump favors.
I’ve seen it suggested that the Republicans should get revenge by abusing the impeachment power of the House - and Faith supported it. I hope that the Republican Party has not yet gone that far in their hatred of democracy. I don’t see any reason to think that the Democrats would automatically impeach a President who didn’t deserve it.
They already did that when they impeached Clinton for a blow-job and cigar sex -- because of Nixon ...
Cue howls of outrage claiming there were legitimate reasons to impeach Clinton ... and then ignore the more gregarious actions of Trump/et al.
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Message 3818 of 5796 (868356)
12-11-2019 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3815 by Faith
12-11-2019 12:22 AM


Re: Trump handlers rush to his side ...
If abuse of power is an impeachable offense then moet of th eHouse Democrats should be impeached.
Your fantasies are amusing.
What power are they abusing?
How are they abusing it?
What is the actual abuse?
Facts Faith, not wishes and whining -- be specific, point out facts.
Curiously I don't think you can point to a single abuse of power by the house democrats.
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Message 3819 of 5796 (868365)
12-11-2019 9:53 AM
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12-11-2019 12:22 AM


School yard taunts and your mother wears army boots ...
If abuse of power is an impeachable offense then moet of th eHouse Democrats should be impeached.
Typical schoolyard taunt, the most devastating argument the republicans have mounted against the democrats ...
" ... oh yeah???? ... you're charging Trumpski with abuse??? ...then you are abusing power too!!! ... "
So funny all that sturm und drang ... pound the desk, yell, scream, etc etc etc
... but not one piece of evidence was shown to be wrong.
... and not one piece of exculpatory evidence was presented.
Trumpski was given several opportunities to testify, he chose to hide instead ... and he blocked the transmission of evidence at every chance he had, in spite of the constitutional rights of the house ...
They had opportunity to present exculpatory evidence and failed to do so.
They had motive to present exculpatory evidence and failed to do so.
They had means to present exculpatory evidence and failed to do so.
So they obstruct and shout in pretend outrage ...
But it's funny how grownups outgrow schoolyard taunts and behavior, how things change with the times.
"Your mother wears army boots" is no longer an insult, as women are in the army, proud to wear the boots that go with the job.
And yet that was all the republicans had ... an empty quiver of insults, false outrage, innuendos and pounding of chests and tearing of hair. But no facts.
It's time for them to grow up and start representing the people and the country and the constitution, and not a petty dictator wanna-be.
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Message 3847 of 5796 (868468)
12-12-2019 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 3837 by PaulK
12-12-2019 1:27 PM


Re: More Trump Attack/Insult Tweets
Except that obviously isn’t what is going on. Trump didn’t talk about corruption - he was meant to, but he dropped that part completely. Nor does it explain the secrecy about the withholding of aid.
More specifically it doesn’t explain the release of the aid 2 days after the holding was exposed. IF Trumpski had a legitimate reason to hold the aid he would not need to release it.
That is telling us Trumpski KNEW it was illegal.
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Message 3905 of 5796 (868800)
12-18-2019 3:50 PM
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12-18-2019 3:15 PM


Re: More Electoral College -- as a clearing house for ranked voting
I did a spreadsheet that got rid of the "winner-take-all" rule for every state. Instead each state's electors were apportioned to the popular voting in each state.
For the 2016 election it came to 257 for the Democrats, 250 for the Republicans, 18 for the Libertarians and 13 for the other parties.
I think if neither side gets the majority it goes to the House?
Actually, the electors can debate and change votes before they are cast, it is only in the case of a tie or a stalemate that it goes to congress.
Thus they could take ranked voting results -- thus the second choices of the Libertarians and other parties (31 votes) could be reapportioned to the two leaders.
This eliminates the spoiler effect of third parties.
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Message 3914 of 5796 (868837)
12-18-2019 11:35 PM
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12-18-2019 10:47 PM


Re: Witnesses at the Impeachment Trial
Thus far, the trial seems to be shaping up as a farce. And I don't think Roberts wants to be part of a farce.
Indeed. The hearing behavior of the republicans was a circus of clowns each trying to sound more offended than the last, when all they had was bluster and denial.
Now that they can run the show, lets see how far they go.
Perhaps Rudy will testify to the corruption of Biden ...

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Message 3919 of 5796 (868867)
12-19-2019 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 3915 by Faith
12-19-2019 12:07 AM


Re: Witnesses at the Impeachment Trial
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Message 4010 of 5796 (869108)
12-23-2019 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 4000 by Faith
12-23-2019 2:15 AM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
You don't like Trump's politics, so what?
It's not a difference in politics, Faith, it's a difference in morals. Trump doesn't have any.
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Message 4015 of 5796 (869159)
12-24-2019 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 3976 by Faith
12-22-2019 9:26 AM


Re: Christianity Today on Impeachment -- just another tool of the Left
... I think a trial would do the most good though, as you say. But there is nothing for him to hide so there have to be other reasons if he doesn't want a trial. ...
... or he is guilty as charged. His best defense if he is innocent is to allow subpoenaed witnesses to testify. His best defense if he is guilty is to keep stonewalling and preventing witnesses to testify.
... Whilie I get that reasoning, a full trial would bring out the necessary information that should come out.
Provided that all witnesses with knowledge of the situation/s are allowed to testify.
Call the Bidens and Schiff and watch the accusations get refuted or be shown to be pointless ... again (remember Bengazi, when Republicans could not make a single imagined accusation stick).
Call Rudy and Mick and Pompeo and the others on Schumer's list and watch the evidence of corruption grow.
Start the 3 ring circus, and watch popular opinion go against the wild accusations of the GOP while the case for removal grows.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesars.
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Message 4044 of 5796 (869365)
12-29-2019 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 4040 by Faith
12-29-2019 11:52 AM


unemployment and wage decline
The evidence is that there are more jobs and less unemployment under Trump than there have been for fifty years. What do you hope to prove by finding individuals that haven't benefited? Nobody claims every single individual has benefited.
Starvation wage jobs classify as employment, it is actually underemployment ... and people need more than one job to survive, upping the employment statistics ... so the numbers are nonsense without knowing the level of pay and other factors.
The fact is that very few people have benefited.
Zerohedge
In the 50's a single middle-class job paid for a house and family to live on one wage earner's pay. This is no longer the case, and the middle-class is shrinking under Trump and the GOP economic policies.
It's not just Trump, but GOP trick economics ... since 2006 ... or earlier.
PayScale: Nominal wages grow, real wages decline in Q2 2019 | HR Dive
quote:
  • No robust wage growth occurred in the second quarter of 2019, according to the Q2 2019 PayScale Index. A slight uptick of 0.3% in nominal wages from Q1 and 2% from last year wasn't enough to raise workers' purchasing power, Payscale said in a statement. When Payscale factored in inflation, it found real wages fell by 0.8% compared to last quarter and only increased by 0.2% compared to last year. Real wages have decreased by 9.8% since 2006 if inflation is factored in, the index showed.
  • "While there are some encouraging signs with nominal wages growing in select industries and job families, this increase is still not enough to impact real wage growth in a meaningful way," Sudarshan Sampath, PayScale's director of research, said in a media release. "Our most recent Index shows there are some bright spots in the economy, but many industries those with a high proportion of blue-collar jobs, in particular are still struggling."
PayScale's latest findings complement a study it released earlier this year, which said that employers did not intend to offer significant wage increases for workers this year. Workers' wages get them less now than they did in 2006, Payscale noted, but employers continue to hesitate to increase wages.
Real Wage Growth Is Actually Falling
quote:
The U.S. economy is at full employment, says the official 3.9% unemployment rate.
The problem is that fully employed people haven’t seen enough wage growth. It’s a puzzle. Wages used to rise faster when unemployment was this low.
That’s why there was much celebration when the August jobs report showed a 2.8% annual increase in average hourly earnings for Production and Nonsupervisory Employees, i.e., regular workers.
The media reported it was the fastest wage growth since 2009.
That was correct in a narrow, technical sense. But not in real life.
Real Wages Are Flat
Aside from employment data, the Bureau of Labor Statistics also compiles the Consumer Price Index (CPI), our primary inflation gauge.
In the same period in which average hourly earnings rose 2.8%, the CPI rose 2.7%. That’s how much the cost of living went up, on average.
The details show a different story.
The increasing wage gap is a sign of a sick economy, not a robust one.
Farmers struggle with trade wars, floods and low prices
quote:
And then came the rain.
American farmers already plagued by a near biblical parade of misfortune that includes years of low prices and a trade war with China are now grappling with record Midwest rain that will likely prevent a large portion of this year’s crop from even getting planted.
The troubles have created the worst farm crisis since the 1980s, when oversupplies and a U.S. grain embargo against the Soviet Union forced thousands of farmers into bankruptcy, experts say.
It’s not the 1980s, but it’s as close as we’ve been, says John Newton, chief economist of the American Farm Bureau.
While some farmers have been shutting down or selling to larger competitors for years amid thinner profits, analysts say 2019 will bring a more dramatic shakeout.
This is more than a cyclical thing, says Gary Schnitkey, an agricultural economist at the University of Illinois. It’s a series of events that we’ve never seen come together. It’s going to be a blow to everyone’s financial position.
That's not a sign of a robust economy either.
The Results of Trump's Trade War with China Are In. They're Not Good - Foundation for Economic Education
quote:
The Trump administration’s trade warfare with China began in earnest last March 22 (following steel and aluminum tariffs that primarily hit other countries). U.S. and Chinese tariffs on each other’s goods then escalated repeatedly through September 18 with threats of much more of the same by March 1 of this year.
The effect so far has been quite different from what President Trump first promised and still keeps pretending. In fact, U.S. goods exports to China (excluding services) fell by 26.3 percent from March through October, while U.S. imports from China rose by 36.5 percent.
Trump trade war with China has cost 300,000 U.S. jobs, Moody's estimates - CBS News
quote:
  • Moody's Analytics estimates that the Trump administration's trade war with China has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created in the U.S.
  • That figure could rise to 450,000 by year-end if the dispute continues, according to the economic research firm.
  • Economist Mark Zandi said the two countries are playing a "dangerous game of economic chicken."
The White House's imposition of tariffs on hundreds of billions worth of Chinese imports has resulted in 300,000 fewer jobs being created and reduced U.S. gross domestic product by an estimated 0.3%, Moody's Analytics' chief economist Mark Zandi said in the report.
That estimate is based on the difference between actual nonfarm employment and projections of what employment would have been as of June 30 if not for the U.S.-China trade war.
The real question is not how many workers are employed but how the average american worker is doing, averaging their pay over the total work force, not the number of jobs.
It is down despite the high employment numbers. The average working american is not doing better.
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Message 4048 of 5796 (869382)
12-29-2019 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 4046 by JonF
12-29-2019 1:33 PM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
if you do [blockcolor=white](img)[/blockcolor] it looks like this
So Obama added ~550 - (-2250) = 2,800 jobs to the economy left by Schrubia.
Trumps not even in the same ballpark, truth be told.
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Message 4072 of 5796 (869756)
01-05-2020 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 4058 by Faith
01-04-2020 10:11 PM


LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: ...
quote:
Liberalism - Wikipedia
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism (free markets), democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]
Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]
quote:
Fascism - Wikipedia
Fascism (/fz’m/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left—right spectrum.[4][5][6]
Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought massive changes to the nature of war, society, the state, and technology. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war.[7][8] The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.[7][8]
Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[9] Such a state is led by a strong leadersuch as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist partyto forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[9] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature and views political violence, war and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[10][11] Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[12]
Germany was Fascist. Can you list all the attributes of liberalism, as defined above, that fit Fascism, as defined above, and that match German Fascism as practiced?
Please be specific.
Be honest.
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Message 4076 of 5796 (869761)
01-05-2020 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 4074 by Faith
01-05-2020 3:25 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
Faith, show how
... characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy
applies to liberals more that conservatives, because it sure sounds more like Trump and Trumpism than liberalism.
Dictatorial Power --
  • Trump claiming he can ignore subpoenas and direct his staff to ignore them, that he can't be prosecuted.
  • vs Democrats saying the constitution gives them the power of oversight and voting on it
for starters
Like I've said before,be specific rather than just spout more assertions.
Back it up with evidence.
if what you see is fascism, then it isn't liberalism: they are antithetical philosophies.
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Message 4084 of 5796 (869769)
01-05-2020 3:45 PM
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01-05-2020 3:32 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
Gosh you can't see the evidence in the totalitarian media that promote only the liberal/leftist party line? ...
Nope. You need more than assertions and argument from incredulity Faith. Try FACTS.
The media is corporatist, not partisan, it is owned by the 1%, and it goes where the news stories go that increase readership and promote corporatist agenda. That's why news about Bernie Sanders is suppressed and misrepresented, which is counter to your assertions.
Curiously I see Faux Noise Nutwerk is even beginning to distance themselves from Trump ... is that a liberal organization now?
What I see is evidence of reality, and of democratic processes in the constitution being brought to bear against the most corrupt amoral president in history. It has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative and everything to do with constitutional democracy vs corporatist oligarchy.
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