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Theodoric
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Message 1639 of 5796 (851925)
05-04-2019 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1637 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:16 AM


Re: Eisenhower's deportation
All I heard was that Eisenhower had deported a million illegal aliens, and that is literally ALL I heard
So again you accept right wing misinformation as fact and do not bother to confirm the information before you present it as fact.
Just that deportation is a way to deal with the illegals flooding into the country now. When I first heard that Eisenhower had done it I was surprised that it was possible in huge number
Asylum seekers are not "illegal". US and international law gives them the right and legal mechanism to apply for asylum. The current issue is being caused by donnie's illegal treatment of legal asylum seekers.
The sources you cited clearly state that a million immigrants were not deported by Eisenhower during Operation Wetback. Most of the more recent Presidents had more deportations.
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1642 of 5796 (851928)
05-04-2019 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1640 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:51 AM


Re: Eisenhower's deportation
You know this how? You do realize we have courts and judges that determine this and each case is different. Do you even know what qualifies people for asylum?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1644 of 5796 (851930)
05-04-2019 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1643 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:59 AM


Re: Eisenhower's deportation
Classic.
Dont confuse me with the facts my mind is made up
As always your racism is showing. Since you are back to just trolling. I will stop responding

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1676 of 5796 (852004)
05-05-2019 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1675 by marc9000
05-05-2019 9:36 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
So you think people should be able to smoke on flights? Also, please show there is any move to allow non-citizens to vote in federal elections. If you have nothing than your argument is worthless.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 1690 of 5796 (852031)
05-06-2019 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1688 by Chiroptera
05-06-2019 10:23 AM


Re: We're still talking as if pro-slavery was a legitimate position?
People like marc do believe that slavery was a legitimate practice. Would even support it today I think.
There is a very significant extremely racist group of people in this country. Marc and Faith or just a representation.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1695 of 5796 (852042)
05-06-2019 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1691 by Faith
05-06-2019 10:41 AM


Re: We're still talking as if pro-slavery was a legitimate position?
Well you can't sue me for slander because I did not make a slanderous statement. You would have to sue me for libel. You would not be able to do that, because I can easily display racist comments you have made. Not too worried about a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1702 of 5796 (852090)
05-06-2019 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1698 by Faith
05-06-2019 4:31 PM


Re: We're still talking as if pro-slavery was a legitimate position?
Have your lawyer contact me. This will be fun.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1703 of 5796 (852091)
05-06-2019 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1698 by Faith
05-06-2019 4:31 PM


Re: We're still talking as if pro-slavery was a legitimate position?
Sue you for twenty years of your income
That won't get you much. I have no income. Depending on how you want to look at it, I am either a kept man or a stay at home dad. Besides that isn't how libel and slander suits works. You would have to show actual harm either economic or mental anguish and punitive damages would require evidence that the libel was intentional. I think perusing your comments here and on your blogs would inoculate me from that. Your anti Islam screeds alone will make any suit you bring untenable. By all means bring it on.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1705 of 5796 (852100)
05-07-2019 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1643 by Faith
05-04-2019 10:59 AM


Asylum seekers ≠ "illegals"
No matter how many times you say it asylum seekers are not "illegals". By virtue of the definition they can not be "illegals". Seeking asylum is enshrined in US law and international law. The Trump administration is the one doing illegal activity by not following US and international treaties in the treatment of asylum seekers. His behavior leaves the US open to international sanctions and members of his administration open to international criminal prosecution.
Those are the legal facts no matter what you and the right wing racists you listen to say.
Non-racists do not spout racist arguments and lies.
Edited by Theodoric, : New subtitle
Edited by Theodoric, : missed a word "law"

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1721 of 5796 (852129)
05-07-2019 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1712 by PaulK
05-07-2019 1:14 PM


Re: A So-Called Christian Becomes A Tool Of Satan
Or to put it bluntly. Defending racists, using racist arguments and saying racist things makes you a racist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1729 of 5796 (852143)
05-07-2019 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1727 by ooh-child
05-07-2019 2:43 PM


Evangelical and catholic actions
I am not at all surprised that the religious right, protestant and catholic, have supported donnie. It is no different than the religious support during the rise of nazism. To them the ends justify the means. Lying to promote their religion or to line their pockets is perfectly in line with their religion and religious beliefs.
I had no doubt that when people were being sent to concentration camps their would not only be no push back, but they would openly support it. And I have been proven correct on this. When US citizens are sent en masse to concentration camps there will again be no sound, but cheering, from those on the religious right. They will only complain when their own special version of Christianity is not thought of as being the correct one or not pure enough.
People like Faith will be cheering them on until the moment they come for her. There is not a giant leap from removing the social safety net to removing anyone that would need the safety net.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1731 of 5796 (852145)
05-07-2019 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1728 by Faith
05-07-2019 3:09 PM


Re: Racist actions?
probably less actual racism than it is business motivated,
Business motivated racism does not count?
which would be an accommodation to community racism though not his own personal racism.
Doing racist things is racist. The motivation does not matter.
Illegal immigration has nothing to do with racism
As you have been told numerous times. The issue at the border is not an "illegal" immigrant problem. The vast majority are seeking legal immigration and trying to apply for asylum. By not allowing brown people the same right to apply as white Europeans is racist.
Everything you stated in this post was racist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1735 of 5796 (852156)
05-07-2019 6:07 PM


Jerry Falwell Jr. seems to have used Michael Cohen's services to cleanup his own indiscretions.
I am quite confident that the evangelical grifter class will not say a word as they are afraid that their own indiscretions will see the light of day.
Looks like he is just as evil and immoral as his father.
Exclusive: Trump fixer Cohen says he helped Falwell handle racy photos

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1741 of 5796 (852164)
05-07-2019 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1738 by ooh-child
05-07-2019 6:12 PM


Re: Racy photos?
I don't think who the pics are of is known yet. If Cohen thought they were disturbing and they were of Falwell's wife, then indiscretion certainly fits. Even if they are quite tame, in the eyes of the evangelical community they would be an indiscretion.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1742 of 5796 (852165)
05-07-2019 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1740 by Faith
05-07-2019 7:35 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Again a post full of racism.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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