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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Computer still broken
I can read on my own computer but can't write. I am on my own computer now. It's hard to copy and paste a whole message letter by letter. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Trump didn't say Mexico would pay for it up front but will pay for it in the end. Of course he has to get the money from Congress first. Trump made no such qualifications. If Mexico is going to pay for it in the end, then lets wait for Mexico to come up with the money. That's what Trump promised. No he did not and nobody in their right mind thought that's what he meant when he said it. We knew he meant that in the end it would be economically disadvantageous to Mexico in various ways and that's how they would pay for it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If Trump's reelected and the interpretation stands that sitting presidents cannot be indicted, then the statute of limitations will run out and Trump will get off scot-free. An impeachment trial might be the only shot at holding Trump accountable. Holding Trump accountable for something they just now discovered after two years of searching and searching and searching to find something, anything, they can hold over him. They started crying "impeachment" before he was even in office, when they had nothing, zero, to impeach him for. Then they trumped up the "dossier," a fake document paid for by Hillary Clinton alleging some pretty salacious disgusting things that simply were not true (but somehow she got a pass on all that and more?), yet the whole Russia collusion thing goes on and on and on merely on the strength of the determination of the Left to get the man one way or another, insinuating this or that, trying to turn the public against him any way they can. There is NO evidence whatever of Russia collusion. They've come up with things they can prosecute people related to Trump for but it's all personal stuff, nothing directly about the campaign or Presidency, until now they think they've finally got something in his paying a couple of women not to talk about their "affairs" with him, on the advice of his lawyer yet. What I've been hearing is that legally it isn't going to go anywhere but wait and see, the Left is nothing if not clever at misusing the law to their own political purposes. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Quote someone saying that. Certainly the vast majority of people at his rallies thought he was going to make some seemingly impossible deal with Mexico to put up the money directly. YOU quote something to prove THAT. That would be idiotic and NOBODY I know of thought such a thing. I certainly did not.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes, he's caused incredible damage to America and the world. Nothing could show the political and philosophical chasm between Left and Right more tellingly than this statement. The Right feels exactly the opposite, that the damage to the nation and to the world has been underway from the Left for decades and reached a destructive peak under Obama, which would have been set in concrete for ages to come if Hillary had won, so that Trump has been a savior from that damage insofar as the Left's endless obstructions have allowed. I was prepared to see my country become a third world cesspool or a police state or both or worse, but instead we got someone who CARES about the nation, we got Trump, and the worst has been turned back for now. If he can get the wall through we will all be SO happy, and we know he is trying, we know he cares, and we love him for that no matter what.s
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Somebody admitted it is fake, somebody who should know. I'm sorry I'm not good at following politics but I've heard this many times from my favorite talk show people, and I don't even know who at the moment, maybe all of them. All anybody here knows is what the Left feeds you, with their spin at full throttle. I hear all that too, how could I miss it, but I also hear from the opposition. You might try it some time.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What damage are you talking about? The destruction and perversion of the meaning of our Constitution for starters, the denigration of our heritage by Obama and the Left, in fact the hatred of America by the Left that undermines us in the context of world politics, the destruction of our Christian culture. Just a few off the top of my head.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If you are going to accuse me like that you need to have some evidence of your own.
I NEVER had the idea he meant that Mexico would pay for it directly. NEVER. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Only after he took office did Trump back off his claims that Mexico would pay for the wall and begin allowing that it might be through reimbursement. How on earth could anyone have ever thought Mexico would pay for it directly? That makes NO sense whatever, and Trump couldn't have thought it at any point. He could only have meant we'd get the money back and Mexico would be the loser.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Dossier is officially "unverified" and always has been and that very fact should have prevented it from ever seeing the light of day. No, it's fake, totally trumped up.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Cutting off that flow of money immigrants send to Mexico should pay for it without any other deal being made. And there are other laws that could be passed cutting off what illegal immigration costs us.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't know what it would take and I didn't say, but there are powers the President does have legally and constitutionally that the Left has been interfering with from the beginning of Trump's term, and excuse me but I am very sure that you don't have a clue to any of that. They call anything he does something he has no right to do whether he does or not. They have not a shred of integrity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It means that I feel I must question. I must honestly admit that I need more information. And not from just one side. You, on the other hand, seem to turn off the information that conflicts with your beliefs. This means that you believe that you have the ability to judge and I don't. I think that believers often have blinders on because they presuppose that their belief overrides and cancels out any conflicting information. You are gravely in error just for thinking this has anything to do with MY beliefs or anyone's personal beliefs. This is about knowing that the Word of God is God's Word and that is ALL it is about and your notion that you "must question" anything you don't understand about it just shows you are not committed to the rock bottom beliefs of Christianity. (We are not called to understand it all, but we are called to believe it all. That is not true of any other source of information in this world, only the Bible. You are misapplying worldly standards to God's Word.) Whether you can get away with that in the end, whether God will give you a pass or not, I have no idea, but you are violating what is a fundamental position held by all born-again Christians and you keep rationalizing it away when people try to tell you that. We are supposed to have a "teachable" spirit, not a questioning spirit. There is nothing wrong with asking questions in order to understand God's mind but you are asking questions with the mindset of challenging God and Christians. You are seriously in the wrong, Phat.
They would even claim that we are not to listen to the devil...be he from the Left, Radical Islam, or secular fallen unbelievers. My pastor would urge me to ignore places like EvC. He would claim that it causes me to become double-minded and weaken my faith. Well, he's right, and you keep priding yourself on doing exactly what you are told by your pastor and so many others you should not be doing. That is NOT something to be proud of, that is a very dangerous position you are taking. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sigh. I was going to try to answer some of that long post but it's too much. I stand by everything I said and calling me a liar for something I believe to be true is underhanded of you.
If you really think that "no one is out to get Trump" you are so seriously deceived there is no helping you. If you think people can't be coerced to lie in a criminal investigation you are truly naive. If you think all those allegations are just true about Trump rather than being invented or manipulated or misidentified, you are wrong. And most of them have been far more true of Obama and the Clintons and other politicians but nobody bothers to hold them accountable for them. They get a pass, Trump doesn't. And you don't notice. Nobody even seems to know that the policies toward illegal immigrants that Trump is called racist and unfair for allowing were done more by Obama than by Trump. You don't know, you don't care, you are on the bandwagon of Trump haters and that's all this is about. Perhaps I'm misstating things to some extent because I'm not tracking down all the details and relying mostly on my memory of what I've been hearing from the very worthy Right, but I know the gist of what I'm saying is correct. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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