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Faith 
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Message 5054 of 5796 (872303)
02-24-2020 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 5052 by Percy
02-24-2020 4:41 PM


Re: This One's For You
All your information comes from talk shows.
That's because there is no true objective news available apart from the conservative talk shows. That's what I'm saying, there is none, it's all leftist propaganda.
Mark Levin is a conservative commentator, not a reporter. Unfreedom of the Press is full of fake news.
The book is a scholarly study of the history of journalism in America. Scholarly, factual, and chock full of sources at the back of the book. It shows how American Journalism became Leftist propaganda.
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Faith 
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Message 5058 of 5796 (872329)
02-25-2020 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 5056 by Percy
02-25-2020 8:33 AM


Re: This One's For You
Your critics are leftists. Enough said.

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Faith 
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Message 5061 of 5796 (872348)
02-26-2020 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 5060 by Percy
02-26-2020 6:47 AM


Re: This One's For You
Faith, originally writes:
Your critics are leftists. Enough said.
percy, responding writes:
This is political bigotry empty of thought and facts.
That's the point. There is no real news, or you have to go look for it because it isn't what the public gets every day, it's all leftist ideological propaganda, so you can't answer me with the opinions of left-wingers.
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Faith 
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Message 5063 of 5796 (872351)
02-26-2020 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 5062 by PaulK
02-26-2020 1:37 PM


Re: This One's For You
What I mean by "real news" is simple straightforward objective neutral reporting of the facts of any situation. If you pay attention you should see that the headlines and the stories of any of the main media contain emotionally tendentious words and concepts that are opinion rather than reporting. In many cases the story itself isn't really newsworthy at all but is published because it suggests something left can use as propaganda against Trump or his supporters. I see it every day, I've shown some examples of it, there is no escaping it, but if you share the opinions you are likely not to notice it and think it IS real news.
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Faith 
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Message 5068 of 5796 (872370)
02-26-2020 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 5067 by dwise1
02-26-2020 4:03 PM


Re: This One's For You
What are you going to do about the slanted headlines I'm talking about? Do you even see them? Do something about that before you tell me what to do.
"Every financial thread pulled results in scandal?: That's upposed to be objective reporting? Doeswn't she have to prove that, not just assert it? The problem is that she probably doesn't know what the law says about any of it, she just "feels" like there's scandal there, which is the case with much of the Leftist "reporting." OR the legal system itself is corrupted by leftist ideology in the first place, and we know it is.
Same with Trump's business dealings. What looks like corruption to you probably is standard business, done all the time by everybody. How would I know? How would you know? I can't take your headlines ande your kneejerk interpretations for gospel truth, but that's all typical of the Left. Everything that the Left tried to make into an impeachable offense was perfectly legal or just plain ordinary stuff, sometimes just a personality style. Address all that, get all that straightened out and you may have a point.
I don't see Rachel Maddow at all for whatever reason. But I would ask, what if all that documentation she is displaying is itself ideologically biased? For instance the foreman of the jury and the judge herself in the Roger Stone case were active ideologues against Stone who should not have been allowed to have a part in the trial. What does Maddow do with that kind of information?
Of course we're already at odds when you smear the Republican comments in the House and extol the Democrats' when as I heard it, lengthy audio of it, whole speeches here and there, the Democrats had no case at all and the Republicans were brilliant, yes brilliant. They gave me hope for America, but the Democrats, not a single word any of them said deserved any kind of credit.
Any idea what to do about the polarization here?
Lately all I can do is hope the Rapture comes soon and the Lord will have mercy on me and let me be in it.
AbE: Lotta conservatives will be gone, lotta Christians will be gone, there should be a preponderance of leftists, liberals, Democrats in America to run the show before the Tribulation hits. Maybe three or so years. You shuld enjoy that.
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Faith 
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Message 5071 of 5796 (872374)
02-26-2020 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 5070 by Hyroglyphx
02-26-2020 6:38 PM


Re: This One's For You
I had to grow into my views, there's nothing tribal about them. You don't know why I believe what I believe.
The Left is THE evil force in the world today.
Come soon Lord, come soon. The world is getting worse every day.
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Faith 
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Message 5074 of 5796 (872380)
02-26-2020 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 5069 by Percy
02-26-2020 6:29 PM


Re: This One's For You
Gosh, you put some of the news in your own words and ask me to find the leftist bias in it? That's . um....words fail me. Give me some real headlines.

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Faith 
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Message 5076 of 5796 (872382)
02-26-2020 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 5075 by Percy
02-26-2020 7:52 PM


Re: This One's For You
I commented on the rally headlines when you posted them, I don't see any point in repeating what I said.

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Faith 
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Message 5077 of 5796 (872383)
02-26-2020 7:56 PM
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02-26-2020 7:52 PM


Re: This One's For You
Trump has committed no violations of the Constitution or the law or anything else, but Hillary did, the FBI did, Joe and Hunter Biden did, others on the Left did, the Democrats of the House lled and lled and lled. I realize by now that there is no point in discussing any of this. Part of that is my fault, I don't do enough research and that isn't going to improve, partly from sheer discouragement with the results though, and the political divide is simply unbridgeable. I don't see any way to fix the problem.
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Faith 
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Message 5081 of 5796 (872391)
02-26-2020 8:44 PM
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02-26-2020 8:27 PM


Re: This One's For You
No he did not. that is leftist spin on a perfectly normal communication with a foreign leader about corruption in his government. And there is no such thing as obstructing Congress, especially when Congress is violating the separation of powers by trying to push around the Presidency.

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Faith 
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Message 5083 of 5796 (872404)
02-26-2020 10:39 PM
Reply to: Message 5082 by Percy
02-26-2020 10:08 PM


Re: This One's For You
Trump had and has no hneed for help in the election and the whole idea is utterly screamingly ridiculous. Biden wasn't the candidate and not even likely to be but even if he was Trump has nothing to fear from any of the Democrats anywat and the idea that he'd be looking for some kind of dirt is a foul lle. It was Hillary who paid for "dirt," totally invented dirt on Trump, and Biden himself paid to get his son out from under an investigation into corruption. It was Biden who did that but the Left always dumps its own corruptions onto Trump. Trump was asking about corruptions that involved our elections because that's his job. The rest is Leftist lles and lles and more lles.
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Faith 
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Message 5095 of 5796 (872500)
02-28-2020 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 5094 by Percy
02-28-2020 8:05 AM


Re: This One's For You
You don't identify the sources, I have to go find them. And the first few seem like local sources. Isn't it clear I'm talking about the major news that hits us all in the face, not small local sources, some of which could be conservative. All I know is I had to look for information about the rallies, they aren't mainstream headlines. Mainstream headlines are always some kind of insinuation that Trump did something wrong about something or other.
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Faith 
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Message 5105 of 5796 (872592)
02-29-2020 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 5103 by Percy
02-29-2020 8:49 AM


Re: This One's For You
You'll say I'm moving the goalposts or some such but I don't see any of those headlines as being about rallies, except the second and third from the bottom of the list and the ABC story about braving the chilly temps higher up, that actually mention rallies. The ABC story actually gets across something about the kind of people having a good time too, which in my experience is a very rare bit of information to find in the mainstream media. I'll give you that one at least. What I never see is a headline saying something positive like "Trump Rally Draws 15,000 with 5,000 overflow at such and such a location, emphasizes his achievements to the usual enthusiastic crowd of happy normal Americans," or something like that. Instead it's the usual kind of headline that picks out something Trump said or did, who knows where, no rally mentioned, could have been on the way to his helicopter for all the headline says, and you know perfectly well they chose something they think will make him look bad. That's how most of them read to me. Endless Trump bashing, however low key just because they couldn't find anything worse.
And the accusation he makes about the "hoax" the way the media portray his dealing with the virus is a case in point. He put measures in place way back in January to keep people from coming into the country from places where the virus was spreading, and did other things in response to the virus threat that never got covered in the media. All we hear is how whatever he's doing is inadequate or dangerous or whatnot. A doctor on some show or other said what Trump was doing, or actually Pence I think, was exactly what was needed to deal with the situation. But I had to hear that as a sound bite on one of my conservative talk shows, not the sort of thing you'd ever hear on the mainstream media. No, all we get there is how wrong everything Trump has been doing is. Totally uncalled for hysteria in some of the reports. I think I did hear however that the Times actually contradicted all that nonsense, something I heard in passing. Trump has been on the virus from the beginning with perfectly sound measures. Oh and the Doctor said Pence was the right man for the job because of how he handled the HIV situation in his own state.
See what I mean? All the mentions of Trump's complaint about the "hoax" give a false impression but they dominate the coverage with no mention whatever that it was at a rally where he said it, and certainly nothing to justify his calling it a hoax.
In sum, with one, possibly two or three, exceptions, these stories are not about a rally at all.
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Faith 
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Message 5107 of 5796 (872595)
02-29-2020 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 5100 by PaulK
02-29-2020 2:15 AM


Re: Why Pence?
Trump was already taking action to protect us from the virus way back at the beginning of January, by refusing to let some people into the country from places where the virus was spreading. All the way back in early January while he was being subjected to the partisan impeachment that dominated the news. I think it's fairly recent that he appointed Pence but I'm not sure about the timing. In any case he wasn't pressured into anything. That's fake news.
I wish I could remember the doctor's name so I could look him up.
Oh and speaking of biased sources, I stay away from the mainstream media because I know *they* are biased. The conservatives aren't biased in a way that affects their ability to be objective.
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Faith 
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Message 5109 of 5796 (872597)
02-29-2020 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 5108 by PaulK
02-29-2020 11:56 AM


Re: Why Pence?
The CDC was not decimated. In fact now I'm remembering that it was the NYT that actually had a story about how that was false information that Trump had decreased funds to some of the health organizations, and they shows that in fact the funds had been increased. Out and out false news.

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