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JonF
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Message 4482 of 5796 (870759)
01-24-2020 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 4480 by Faith
01-24-2020 1:44 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
He's announcing great victories that didn't and won't happen. The end of Kim's nuclear threat. $100 billion from Saudi Arabia.
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JonF
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Message 4484 of 5796 (870761)
01-24-2020 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 4481 by Faith
01-24-2020 1:45 PM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
All right, let's be more precise. What Trump actually did was take his case to court which is exactly what he should have done when there is a dispute between the Executive and Legislative branches: take it to the Judicial Branch
As the administration argues in court that courts have no jurisdiction over the executive branch. Tres amusing, but stupid.
Trump didn't take the case of his extortion and obstruction to any court. He didn't take the question of compliance with the investigation to any court. He just ordered everyone t not7comply.
This is not a disagreement between branches. It's Congress appropriately excercising its Constitutionally granted powers (except for the Republican Senators who are violating their sworn oath).
And due process was NOT followed. That is becoming a sick joke.
It's been a joke for a long time. You repeating falsehoods doesn't make them true.
Exactly what due process was not followed? Legal representation and confronting accusers was not applicable to the House investigation, just as it is not applicable or applied to thousands of law enforcement investigations every day.
Chapter and verse, Faith. What law or House rule was broken? every
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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
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Message 4485 of 5796 (870762)
01-24-2020 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 4483 by Faith
01-24-2020 2:08 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
He has very few victories. Name some foreign policy victories.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 4486 of 5796 (870763)
01-24-2020 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 4393 by Percy
01-22-2020 8:00 AM


Re: Trump Lies Again
34 US service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries after Iranian missile strike - CNNPolitics
quote:
Thirty-four US service members have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries following the Iranian missile attack on US forces in Iraq earlier this month, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said Friday.
Seventeen service members who were injured have since returned to duty in Iraq, sixteen of whom were treated locally in the country.
Nine service members are still being treated in Germany. An additional eight service members who had been flown to Germany have since been sent to the United States for additional treatment. The eight service members, who arrived in the US Friday morning, will be treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center or at hospitals in their home bases.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
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Message 4490 of 5796 (870767)
01-24-2020 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 4488 by Faith
01-24-2020 3:05 PM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
IOW you have no clue how the House allegedly violated due process. Nor do your sources. You just mindlessly believe and repeat the accusations.
I bet $20 the Senate sham won't answer my questions. Deal?

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
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Message 4491 of 5796 (870768)
01-24-2020 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 4489 by Faith
01-24-2020 3:06 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
China hasn't bought those crops. Trump had to pay farmers
$28 billion to make up for the damage caused by his tariffs. That is more than twice the 2009 auto bailout that Republicans denounced so furiously. We paid those subsidies. And after buying for two years they'll never depend on us for agricultural products as they did before.
Kim is rattling sabers by formally renouncing Trump's "deal", rebuilding his missile test facilities, and testing rockets that can reach Japan.
Iran is enriching uranium and well on the way to a bomb. Which Trump guaranteed by backing out of the agreement Iran was abiding by. Of course Trump said he would negotiate a much better deal. Which ain't happening.
Yes, great reduction in illegals by application of draconian and barbaric policies.
So, at best one success.

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JonF
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Message 4492 of 5796 (870769)
01-24-2020 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 4487 by Faith
01-24-2020 2:56 PM


Re: 34 US service people injured by Iranian attack
My error.
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JonF
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Message 4495 of 5796 (870778)
01-24-2020 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 4493 by Faith
01-24-2020 4:03 PM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
Yes. And as I proved so many times, confronting his accuser and legal representation do not apply to any investigation. Only in CRIMINAL (not impeachment) PROSECUTIONS (not investigations).
READ THE F****ING Sixth amendment I have posted so many times.
quote:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
quote:
In all criminal prosecutions,
quote:
In all criminal prosecutions,
quote:
In all criminal prosecutions,
What law or House Rule specifies otherwise?
Need a hint?
{none}

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
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Message 4516 of 5796 (870815)
01-25-2020 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 4503 by Percy
01-24-2020 7:43 PM


Re: Trump Lies Again
Er, I'm not Faith.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4517 of 5796 (870816)
01-25-2020 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 4513 by Faith
01-25-2020 9:27 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
There's no point in discussing the particulars of this outrageous travesty of an impeachment.
Certainly not with you.
Due process was not violated. Proved over and over.
Trump did that of which he is accused. You don't even know what the accusations are, much less what the evidence is. The evidence or them is overwhelming. Nd every day more evidence damning Trump comes out.
You can't even name one false claim with evidence that it's false
It's you and your ilk's oft-demonstrated hate for the Constitution and laws that are putting our system in danger. "Laws for thee, but not for me".
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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4521 of 5796 (870820)
01-25-2020 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 4519 by Faith
01-25-2020 9:57 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
What are the charges, Faith?

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4524 of 5796 (870829)
01-25-2020 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 4522 by Faith
01-25-2020 10:35 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
Woefully incomplete. How is it alleged that he abused his power?
I posted the law that defines obstruction of Congress in Message 4479.
18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
quote:
Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress
Obstruction of Congress is in US law. Trump unquestionably broke that law. FISA warrants are irr. What Trump did is relevant.
The power of impeachment does not belong to the executive branch. What executive branch powers have been usurped or criminilazed?
Specifics, Faith. Specifics.
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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4528 of 5796 (870841)
01-25-2020 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4526 by Faith
01-25-2020 11:26 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
It would be nice if you could reply with something connected to the message to which you're replying instead of a random gratuitous insult.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


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Message 4549 of 5796 (870875)
01-25-2020 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 4547 by Faith
01-25-2020 4:35 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
Iran gave up building a nuclear bomb. They were abiding by the agreement.
The only problem with the agreement was Obama's signature.
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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4550 of 5796 (870876)
01-25-2020 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 4547 by Faith
01-25-2020 4:35 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
Duplicate .
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