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JonF
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Message 5616 of 5796 (874296)
03-28-2020 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 5615 by Faith
03-28-2020 5:19 PM


Re: Disappointment in Trump from the Right Side
No the Republicans insisted on no money for STD tests or contraception or other related services.
I.e. the opposite of what you wrote.. You didn't even try to read Percy's message..

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JonF
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Message 5618 of 5796 (874300)
03-28-2020 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 5617 by Faith
03-28-2020 5:31 PM


Re: Disappointment in Trump from the Right Side
Boy, you must be high.
You didn't need to read the links, Percy made it explicitly clear that Planned Parenthood wasn't getting anything. Twice. So your "Planned Parenthood isn't killing babies during the pandemic so we have to make sure they get paid anyway?" reveals you didn't even attempt to read what Percy wrote.
I threw in STDs and contraception to remind you that most of PP's services are essential medicine for the poor. Abortion (legal) is a small portion of their services. We discussed exactly that earlier but you've forgotten.
Hell, they're POORS. They don't count, amirite?

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JonF
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Message 5625 of 5796 (874322)
03-29-2020 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 5624 by Faith
03-29-2020 1:58 AM


The increase in testing has a significant effect.
So does the increase in the number of cases.
We can't separate the two.

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JonF
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Message 5629 of 5796 (874328)
03-29-2020 10:13 AM


Unlimited stupidity
Trump Tweets Orders To GM To Make Ventilators At A Factory They Sold Last week
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After spending the evening telling Sean Hannity that those greedy governorsespecially pushy female governorsdidn’t really need the ventilators they were desperately requesting, Donald Trump appears to have realized that literally cutting off air to Americans is a bad look. So on Friday morning, Trump did an all too typical 180 and took to Twitter to do what he does best: Blame other people for his mistakes.
On Thursday evening, The New York Times explained how Trump completely blew off an all-but-complete deal to have GM manufacture thousands of desperately needed ventilators while refusing to invoke the Defense Production Act. But on Friday, Trump demandeddemandedthat GM get right on with making ventilators, apparently for free. Only Trump addressed that demand to a Twitter account that wasn’t GM. And he ordered them to use a factory that they sold months ago.
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JonF
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Message 5636 of 5796 (874352)
03-29-2020 2:25 PM


Coronavirus: FDA authorizes Abbott Labs' 5-minute COVID-19 test
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A five-minute, point-of-care coronavirus test could be coming to urgent care clinics next week, and experts say it could be "game-changing."
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued Emergency Use Authorization to Illinois-based medical device maker Abbott Labs on Friday for a coronavirus test that delivers positive results in as little as five minutes and negative results in 13 minutes, the company said.
The company expects the tests to be available next week and expects to ramp up manufacturing to deliver 50,000 tests per day.

  
JonF
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Message 5638 of 5796 (874356)
03-29-2020 5:12 PM


The harm he does
Louisiana Governor: 'Never A Hint' From Feds That Mardi Gras Posed Virus Risk | Crooks and Liars
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[Governor] EDWARDS: Well, look, there was never any hint from anyone, to me or to the Mayor of New Orleans, that there should be any consideration to down-sizing or canceling Mardi Gras. I think, if you look back for about 15 cases in the country, all of which were tied directly to travel or indirectly to travel, and there was never any hint of this. And if you'll go back, you will see that the federal government was saying things were well under control.
And so this is some Monday morning quarterbacking going on. And, quite frankly, I believe it's likely that -- that Mardi Gras contributed to the seeding of the virus in and around New Orleans, a million and a half people, just 13 days before the first confirmed case here on March the 9th. But -- but that's looking back. Right now, we need to spend our time, our energy; we need to be focused on doing what we can do right now in going forward. And I'm sure that -- that somebody's going to do a study about the -- the impact of Mardi Gras on this particular public health emergency later.
Things were well under control. Unless, of course, you listened to the experts.

  
JonF
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Message 5640 of 5796 (874403)
03-31-2020 7:58 PM


The Trump fustercluck continues
.Pentagon says it still hasn't sent ventilators because it hasn't been told where to send them
quote:
Despite having committed to transferring 2,000 ventilators in military stocks to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Health and Human Services to fight the coronavirus outbreak, the Pentagon has not shipped any of them because the agencies have not asked for them or provided a shipping location, the Pentagon's top logistics official said Tuesday.
In order to ship the badly needed equipment, the Defense Department has to be given a location to send them by civilian authorities who have to decide where the items are most needed.
"There was discussion with HHS on where to send them. And then they said hey wait, we're trying to take a look at the demand that's required, and so we were asked to just wait while there was just some sorting through on that. And I won't speak on behalf of them, but we were in a position to provide 2,000," said Lt. General Giovanni Tuck.
The White House is obsessed with ratings, Kushner-Pence groups Infighting, and packed churches at Easter. Nobody's steering the ship.
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JonF
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Message 5656 of 5796 (874666)
04-07-2020 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5653 by Faith
04-07-2020 5:37 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
A lot of its rapid spread is due to Trump belittling the danger and wasting two months of possible preparation.
(BTW, everybody with a clue knew it was coming and told Trump).

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JonF
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Message 5662 of 5796 (874686)
04-08-2020 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 5659 by Faith
04-07-2020 8:31 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
what "everybody" actually SAID was the same stuff Trump said at the beginning, oh no big deal, not to worry, etc
No. Bullshit. What the intelligence community and the CDC and Navarro and HHS and others actually said was that coronavirus was a big fucking deal. Coronavirus: All the Times Trump Was Warned About the Pandemic
Not to mention how how he's defunded and gutted any possibility of any meaningful Federal response, and run like a scared bunny from his responsibilities.
But at least we have Jared in charge of profiteering.

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JonF
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Message 5663 of 5796 (874688)
04-08-2020 10:29 AM


More illegality
Trump's moves against federal watchdogs signal "deep state" war
quote:
People being considered for high-level positions or promotions are being asked flatly by White House officials if they voted for Trump.

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JonF
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Message 5664 of 5796 (874690)
04-08-2020 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 5659 by Faith
04-07-2020 8:31 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources - ABC News
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As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.
Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.[...]
"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House."
From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policy-makers and decision-makers across the federal government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said. For something to have appeared in the PDB, it would have had to go through weeks of vetting and analysis, according to people who have worked on presidential briefings in both Republican and Democratic administrations.
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JonF
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Message 5671 of 5796 (874701)
04-08-2020 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 5665 by Faith
04-08-2020 10:39 AM


Re: More illegality
Ever hear the phrase "secret ballot"? They've never had any interest in bipartisanship.
What they got were people more loyal to the law than to Trump. As they swore and as they should be.
But now they are ensuring personal loyalty to Trump and scorn for the rule of law.

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JonF
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Message 5672 of 5796 (874702)
04-08-2020 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 5662 by JonF
04-08-2020 10:22 AM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
quote:
what "everybody" actually SAID was the same stuff Trump said at the beginning, oh no big deal, not to worry, etc
No. Bullshit. What the intelligence community and the CDC and Navarro and HHS and others actually said was that coronavirus was a big fucking deal. Coronavirus: All the Times Trump Was Warned About the Pandemic
Not to mention how how he's defunded and gutted any possibility of any meaningful Federal response, and run like a scared bunny from his responsibilities.
But at least we have Jared in charge of profiteering.
Once again Faith's lying is exposed, and she can't admit error.
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JonF
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Message 5673 of 5796 (874703)
04-08-2020 11:49 AM


His fault
Americans Are Paying the Price for Trump’s Failures - The Atlantic
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That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault. The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault. Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too. Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault again. The refusal of red-state governors to act promptly, the failure to close Florida and Gulf Coast beaches until late March? That fault is more widely shared, but again, responsibility rests with Trump: He could have stopped it, and he did not.
The lying about the coronavirus by hosts on Fox News and conservative talk radio is Trump’s fault: They did it to protect him. The false hope of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines is Trump’s fault, because he told those lies to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault; things would have been less bad if he had acted faster instead of sending out his chief economic adviser and his son Eric to assure Americans that the first stock-market dips were buying opportunities. The firing of a Navy captain for speaking truthfully about the virus’s threat to his crew? Trump’s fault. The fact that so many key government jobs were either empty or filled by mediocrities? Trump’s fault. The insertion of Trump’s arrogant and incompetent son-in-law as commander in chief of the national medical supply chain? Trump’s fault

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JonF
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Message 5675 of 5796 (874708)
04-08-2020 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 5674 by PaulK
04-08-2020 11:54 AM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
To be fair, what he called a hoax was the scale of the reaction. Which scale was actually correct.
And he did think it was under control. There's questions about whether he thinks so now. But we know it wasn't and isn't.
Similarly his "I don't take responsibility at all" referred to the shortage of tests, but he's made it clear he feels no responsibility for anything other than playing golf and spreading lies about coronavirus.
Of course Faith's "what 'everybody' actually SAID was the same stuff Trump said at the beginning, oh no big deal, not to worry, etc" is true, as long as you define "everybody" as "clueless and mindless Trump supporters".
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