Evidence for the Biblical Record

We all know what a mighty force of rushing water can do, don't we? Think of the enormity of the return. . We don't know whether there was an equal volumn on the North as on the South, or just how this all happened. At any rate, it would likely be the force of a great back and forth tsunami, especially if one side returned first and the other overlapped it. Likely there was extensive erosion, particularly in the middle deeper area. This plus possible earth quakes at some time, shipping and currents may have changed the topography of the sandbar area of the Gulf from what it was millenniums ago when the alleged Exodus took place.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

If (I say if) there was a gold gilted one, perhaps it would have been from Pharoah's royal chariot. If there was indeed one, perhaps some diver since, having wind of it, has removed and scrapped it for it's value as they might be in legal trouble if they announced it's removal.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

If I'm not sure about a questionable aspect, I use those terms. Some things are that way. Relative to some evidences like regathered Israel and some of the corroborative evidences relative to the Exodus I don't use those terms. Some things are valid evidence and others are maybes, just as it is with QM, String, evolution and BB theory.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Are you saying that there are other areas of the Red Sea that are as shallow as the Nuweiba site from one side to the other besides the ends, Doc?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

And given the thousands of chariots and tens of thousands of soldiers that Pharaoh sent after the Israelites (they weren't Jews until after the founding of Judea) who were all drowned in the sea, there should be heaps and piles of chariot wheels, cabs, axles, reins, swords, armor, and tons of other military gear, not just "the few questionable ones claimed". By your very own criterion for credibility, Buz, where's the evidence of heaps and piles of this stuff?I may be mistaken but I don't think there were thousands of chariots. Most of it would have been buried, rotted or swept into deeper waters. It would be nice if undersea excavation were allowed, but it's a major shipping lane. No doubt there would be an abundance of evidence. I believe the one's photographed were in the more relative shallow water nearer to the shores

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I said relatively shallow. Do you know what that means, Theodoric? Look it up.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Liar, liar, pants afire.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

The topic title calls for evidence, Apothecus. Do what you want with the evidence which I've cited. We could debate the unknowns till the cows come home, just as with the alleged singularity of the BB, abiogenesis and that stuff.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I understand what you're saying here, Razd. I forgot what Moller's position was on this matter.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Huntard, get a passport, go and see the route, look at the beach, hire a diver and look in the water, risk you life and go ashore on the other side, view the column, look at the split rock and the water wash, check out for oasiss in the region, check out the geography as to where Midian was, oh, I forgot. Have a look at the photographed bull inscriptions near the bottom of the burnt mountain, get back to us and report if the evidence is as I have described and if it matches the Biblical account. Thanks in advance, be careful to stay alive and enjoy the trip! Buz

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Dear Whistler In The Wind:Claim: All living things evolved from one organism. SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE!

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Perhaps it's time to move on to some more of the corroborating evidences of the veracity of the Biblical record; prophecies relative to modern technology.Prophet John; NT; you read it first in your Bible; technology of television prophesied 2 milleniums before the fact:Revelation 11 (ASV) (embolding mine)

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Huntard and Mr Jack; My intention was not to lead off topic but to drive home an assumed EvC fairness doctrine; What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

OK Peg, since you too are a skeptic on this one I see I need to corroborate up some support for this prophetic techy stuff. We now go to the same book, Revelation, three chapters ahead to 13. Here we see this same terminology.This ten horned beast we read about depicts 10 kings who rule as kings in the latter days before Armageddon. We know that the ten horns of the beast are ten rulers because they are interpreted in chapter 17 as such where this same 10 horned beast is further described. This is the final world class empire before Armageddon. What does the text say about this beast global empire?1) verses 3. 4: The whole world wonders after and worships the beast.2) Verse 4: The beast gets it's power from the dragon which, according to the previous chapter (12) is Satan3. Verses 7, 8: NOTE the same terminology, "tribe people, tongue and nation" worships the beast. Next we learn how this will be enforced.Now we come to the really interesting and phenomenal part of this great prophecy: A 2nd beast having 2 horns appears who exercises all of the power of the empire beast. This guy fits all of requirements of the anti-christ who is allied with the beast. This guy will likely be the Secretary General type of the UN world body, wether it be that arrangement or some rendition of what it is.
What does this one who operates on behalf of the global empire do? (Btw, likely his two horns depict (A) his religious nature ("poses as a lamb") and (B) political authority of the empire ("speaks like a dragon").1) Verse 12: He is the one who enforces worshp to the global emire beast.2) Verses 14, 15: Here it is, Peg, et al. Read carefully and thoughtfully. The empire has made/manufactured/built (whatever terminology you want to use) a speaking image which all of the nations tribes and tongues are forced to worship or be killed.Now put on your thinking caps on, class, and tell me how the government could enforce all of the nations tribes and tongues and tongues to worship a speaking image?3) CLUE: Verse 16, 17: There you have your corrobrating support, my friends, Peg, et al, for this terminology every tribe tongue and nation being global and the techy support of the speaking image, your TV and your up and coming global monetary system of marks and numbers which is emerging on our planet as we type.This is modern techy, forknown by Jehovah, god of the Bible which he inspired via his Holy Spirit, prophets (John in particular here) to write in order that when the time came we, on the planet may give Jehovah and Jesus his son glory, honor and praise and that we may interpret the past, understand the present and know what lies ahead. Revelation chapter 11 American Standard Version (ASV) It's important to understand the above relative to the global Islamic phenomena emerging rapidly. Mohammed who wrote the Quran & his successor apostles who wrote the Sunnahs and Haddith, regarded by Islam equal to the Quran, advocated global Jehadist global fatah, if you wll, which demands that Islam was/is to become the global religion submitting (meaning of Islam) nation, tribe and tongue to Islam.It is significant, relative to the above prophecy that this emerging global empire will be religious requiring every tribe, tongue and nation to worship a speaking image.Go, figure, my friends. We have this phenomenal global upsurging religon, Islam which requires five times daily prayer at a time when all of the other corroborating end time prophecies are coming into fruition,
Simultaneous to the Islamic global socialistic revolution if you will we just happen to have this speaking image which can be placed in mosques, homes, factories, farms, etc, which have two way in/out capability to monitor every nation, tribe and tongue so as to enforce mandatory worship to the Islamic god, Allah.
Simultaneously to the above, the most powerful nation on the planet, having the most powerful military now has a stealth Islamic born and Islamic upreared president who, according to Islamic law, is officially a Muslim who advocates a socialist and global agenda, undermining our traditional nationalist spirit.It is a fact that the UN global body has increasingly favored Islamic block nations and undermined Islams enemies, Israel and the US in spite of the fact that the US is it's biggest contributer.Anyhow, supportive techy prophecies and food for thought.Buz prophecy: Oct, 2007 when it appeared Hillary was it for the Dems, according to the pundants: Obama will likely become president. Result: fulfilled.Buz prophecy: Mar 17, 2010: Globalistic minded President Obama will become Secretary General of the UN, will unite the nations, will effect a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians, favorable to the Palestinians who will get East Jerusalem, particularly the Temple Mount, will undermine the soverignty of the US by tanking the US $$ and expanding a socialistic agenda. A Russian, Eastern Europe and Islamic block coalition of nations will emerge on the global scene as the major world powers as US pre-eminence wanes. We'll see.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Youngun, the story was only the hypothesis of mine. Observations were the corroborating evidence. (You ommited some of them in your rebuttal; better go back and assimilate the others).You say yours was derived from the observations. Tell me, what did the 2nd organism look like? the third? the fourth?.........the 100th?, the 1000th? the ........the.......the......the.......the first living land crawler? the first macro evolved specie eminating from it, etc,? Who observed them? Where's the evidence

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.