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Message 222 of 1639 (765481)
07-29-2015 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by marc9000
07-29-2015 7:17 PM


Marc's unsupported assertions against actual reality and facts.
So you have no facts, no reality, nothing but unsupported assertions. Got it.
And other nations are still not beheading American citizens nor would that even be a threat to the US if it was true.
I notice that you have presented not even a single example to support your claim that "the EPA would become the monster it became, in less than 10 years" or that the EPA "caused 10 times more problems than it's ever solved." Such unfounded assertions are classic examples of fascist propaganda.
Nixon, even with all his faults and they were many, at least had compassion and empathy and tried to do for the least of these, his brothers.
From a few things I've heard about the feisty Theodore Roosevelt, I'm not sure he's not comparable to Donald Trump in a few ways.
A big difference between Theodore Roosevelt and Donald Trump is that the former is not a total laughing stock.
Teddy Roosevelt was the President that first made big Corporations sit down and negotiate with labor, that busted trusts, that built the Park System, that said individual rights end where public rights begin.
AbE: a few quotes from Teddy that are particularly relevant today;
quote:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
"Now, this means that our government, national and State, must be freed from the sinister influence or control of special interests. Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit. We must drive the special interests out of politics. That is one of our tasks to-day. Every special interest is entitled to justice -full, fair, and complete -and, now, mind you, if there were any attempt by mob-violence to plunder and work harm to the special interest, whatever it may be, and I most dislike and the wealthy man, whomsoever he may be, for whom I have the greatest contempt, I would fight for him, and you would if you were worth your salt. He should have justice. For every special interest is entitled to justice, but not one is entitled to a vote in Congress, to a voice on the bench, or to representation in any public office. The Constitution guarantees protections to property, and we must make that promise good But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation. The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man's making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have themselves called into being."
"There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put an end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done."
"We must have complete and effective publicity of corporate affairs, so that people may know beyond peradventure whether the corporations obey the law and whether their management entitles them to the confidence of the public. It is necessary that laws should be passed to prohibit the use of corporate funds directly or indirectly for political purposes; it is still more necessary that such laws should be thoroughly enforced. Corporate expenditures for political purposes, and specially such expenditures by public-service corporations, have supplied one of the principal sources of corruption in our political affairs."
Theodore Roosevelt
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

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Message 223 of 1639 (765482)
07-29-2015 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by marc9000
07-29-2015 7:29 PM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
On 9-10-01, you suspected there was a chance, however slight, that a group of suicide terrorists could fly U.S. planes in to U.S. buildings and kill 3000 U.S. citizens, and on 7-29-15, you know for sure that there is NO WAY that non-suicide terrorists could enter the U.S. from the southern border, and introduce any type of killer biological or chemical weapons into the water supply of....Houston, or......New York, or both those cities plus 10 more, or 20 more?
No, but I am at least educated enough to understand that even something of that magnitude would not be a threat to the continuation of the US. Does Japan still exist? Do Germany, England, France, Belgium, Greece, Italy, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Cuba, Poland still exist?
In fact I not only suspected that a group of suicide terrorists could fly U.S. planes in to U.S. buildings and kill 3000 U.S. citizens, I had a very high degree of confidence that it would happen. I am even capable of reading and knew that Tom Clancy had written two very successful novels that included that plot device before the 2001 9-11 event and that the idea of suicide pilots crashing planes into targets might even have originated even before then. Maybe you had missed the news of such happenings. It was called World War Two.
Unlike the current crop of so called conservatives I do not keep my head shoved up my ass.
I think you, Tanypteryx, and all of your approval green dot givers represent the mainstream scientific community very well. And that's why the scientific community will always be so insignificant in terms of U.S. politics.
Honesty, reality and education do seem to be insignificant in term of US politics which is why the US has fallen so far behind even nations like Cuba.
And yes, I agree that today's crop of fascists called the Republican Party are anti-science, anti-reality, anti-Constitution, anti-American, anti-Democracy and anti-Christian.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin
Edited by jar, : may ---> my

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jar
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Message 226 of 1639 (765488)
07-29-2015 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Dr Adequate
07-29-2015 8:06 PM


protecting water supplies
It's interesting that it was President Bill Clinton that designated the EPA as the lead agency to address the issues and did so using a Presidential Directive.

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Message 236 of 1639 (765718)
08-04-2015 10:14 PM
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08-04-2015 9:57 PM


Re: Fox Hath Spoken
There was a song about that.

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Message 423 of 1639 (773653)
12-05-2015 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 422 by Dr Adequate
12-05-2015 2:02 PM


Re: Is Trump A Fascist?
How long is the border between Spain and Morocco and how high was the fence?

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jar
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Message 432 of 1639 (773779)
12-08-2015 10:35 PM


This too shall pass
The US survived another Xenophobic jingoist egotist + Super Asshole = Steaming Pile of Shit Bullshit Artist named Ronald Reagan so it's likely the US would survive even Donald Trump.

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Message 446 of 1639 (775140)
12-28-2015 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 445 by AZPaul3
12-28-2015 4:38 PM


Re: The start of a 3rd political party?
Maybe even bring back the Bull Moose.

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Message 489 of 1639 (776319)
01-11-2016 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 488 by Tanypteryx
01-11-2016 8:47 PM


Like Donald Trump?
quote:
Republican front-runner Donald Trump directed security to kick out Bernie Sanders supporters from his Vermont rally and to confiscate their coats.
"Throw them out into the cold," Trump ordered security, as protesters shouted "Bernie! Bernie!" during his rally Thursday night in Burlington, Vt.
"Don't give them their coats," Trump added. "No coats! Confiscate their coats."
"It's about 10 degrees below zero outside. ... You can keep his coat; tell him we'll send it to him in a couple of weeks,"
What rational person could ever vote for such a vile person?

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Message 505 of 1639 (776476)
01-13-2016 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 504 by Tanypteryx
01-13-2016 9:05 PM


Re: Bundy Bozos
I use personal lube to embed insect specimens for photography.
That's what they all say.

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jar
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Message 507 of 1639 (776769)
01-19-2016 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 506 by Dr Adequate
01-19-2016 9:42 PM


Re: Palin Endorses Trump
Yeah, but she is the star of her TV show. It might not be on a real network and she might not have chairs with her name on the back like the real Monkees but it is still a TV show.

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Message 665 of 1639 (778232)
02-18-2016 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 639 by Faith
02-17-2016 8:17 PM


Small question of fact.
Did Donald Trump specify illegal aliens crossing any border or just the US Southern border. Why did he specifically limit his bullshit to those crossing the Southern Border?

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jar
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Message 671 of 1639 (778249)
02-18-2016 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 670 by Faith
02-18-2016 3:30 PM


Re: request for verification of fact
Did Donald Trump specify illegal aliens crossing any border or just the US Southern border. Why did he specifically limit his bullshit to those crossing the Southern Border?

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jar
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Message 673 of 1639 (778251)
02-18-2016 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 672 by Faith
02-18-2016 3:35 PM


Re: request for verification of fact
Faith writes:
PROBABLY BECAUSE THE SOUTHERN BORDER IS THE SUBJECT OF MOST CONCERN ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. DUH.
Maybe the most concern of the willfully ignorant. But note Trump said Mexicans. Do you understand that more than just Mexicans cross the border, that illegal immigration from the Caribbean seldom comes in across the Mexican border, the the west coast see illegal immigration from Asia and that at least since 2011 the Canadian Border has been seen as a greater threat than the border with Mexico.
Trump says what ever he thinks well sell to the Christian Cult of Ignorance and the other Fascist Racists.

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Message 680 of 1639 (778258)
02-18-2016 4:53 PM
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02-18-2016 4:42 PM


Re: request for verification of fact
Did Donald Trump specify illegal aliens crossing any border or just the US Southern border. Why did he specifically limit his bullshit to those crossing the Southern Border?

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Message 707 of 1639 (778299)
02-19-2016 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 706 by Faith
02-19-2016 7:25 AM


Re: Trump On Torture
If the fact is that an act is morally evil should that not be pointed out?

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