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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You can have any opinions you want. You can almost always voice them. But implementing "biblical law trumps the Constitution" is illegal. If course. We expect to be punished for it by this evil government.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This is an opinion deserving respect? It's okay for Trump to call his detractors stupid, but it is not okay to criticize Trump based on the facts? Never said any such thing. Criticize him all you want, but do it with the facts and stop the PC propaganda namecalling.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As were the Christians and non-Christians who gave sanctuary to Jews. Sometimes the spirit of the law trumps the letter of the law. I can't believe the illogic you will sink to. The Jews were in danger of being murdered, duh. The illegal immigrants are simply doing something illegal.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What is it with you religious right wackaloons and the desire for martyrdom? Well the answer is easy. There is no way to logically support your beliefs so if your martyr yourself at least you will have some sort of spiritual justification. The amazing thing is that what you claim the government is going to do to you is exactly what you want done to people that don't hold your beliefs. The thing you and your ilk don't understand is that the other side has no desire to hurt or martyr you because of your beliefs. The projection is very disturbing. You will notice we only fight back when you try to impose your belief structure on others. Golly what a rant. The fact is Christians have already been punished for opposing gay marriage, with fines and the loss of businesses. It's not something that's GOING TO happen, it HAS happened, because of the law requiring acceptance of gay marriage. As long as no one challenges us on it we won't be punished (it's interesting that no Muslim businesses have been challenged although they could be because they also reject gay marriage), but all you have to do is ask us to do something to help celebrate a gay marriage and sue us for refusing and there you have it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Except that criticizing him about his position on waterboarding is a criticism based on the facts. Nobody is simply applying labels without also offering justification. That's not true. I didn't get to find out what waterboarding actually does until way into the excuse for a discussion about it that went on here, then finally somebody informed me, inadvertently I think, that it gives the sensation of suffocation, and I suppose could even lead to suffocation. How was not discussed. Nor was any opinion by experts offered. No facts about waterboarding until then, just a lot of rhetoric about how evil Trump is for supporting it, how unchristian it proves him to be and all that typical ad hominem leftist propaganda rot. And by the way once you've applied the label evil or the equivalent to a political opponent how would you go about justifying it anyway? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Almost all of the Republican candidates have tough policies on immigration. Most of them manage to express those policies without inflammatory xenophobic speech. Yet you find something to admire in his speech. I could be wrong since I don't listen to all the debates or political rhetoric, but my impression is that nobody is as bold about it as Trump and I like his boldness and his willingness to face down the PC accusations such as "xenophobic" that are hurled at him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh, how EVIL of him! That IS your point, isn't it?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I would like to nominate Theodoric's Message 729 as the most perfect example of PC in this discussion ... I note that you haven't provided any arguments or evidence to suggest that what he wrote isn't actually true.
My effort in this entire discussion has been to object to Political Correctness as the left's favorite form of "debate" and to try to show how it operates in the thinking of the posters on this topic here, when discussing Trump's views of illegal immigration, or the Right's views in general for that matter, or the Right's view of gay marriage, or even what Trump said about waterboarding. I tried to make it clear that I'm not into discussing the issues themselves, I just want to get across that PC is a pernicious form of thought and doesn't belong in any intellectual discourse of any kind. Yes, the issues should be discussed instead, but that's not my purpose here, my purpose is to highlight the evil doctrine of PC and how the left uses it all the time as if it were a legitimate form of debate. And Theodoric's post is a brilliant piece of Perfect PC so I had to give it a prize. Let me try again to get across what I've been saying all along:
I think I may have forgotten some other things I said about PC, so if I remember them I'll come back and add them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No wonder nobody here sees the evidence for the Flood. You don't know what evidence is.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Very nice piece of PC slander.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Protestant Reformers identified the papacy as the seat of the Antichrist based on its false doctrine and multiple contradictions with scripture, and embrace of pagan religions. Each Pope is Antichrist in his turn. Eventually there will be a final one who resumes ruling the world as the medieval Popes did.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There are laws against discrimination. The laws protect christians too. You can take that up with the courts that punished the five or six Christian businesses with fines for refusing to cater to gay weddings.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes, of course they broke the law and of course they were punished. Obviously the law no longer protects Christians.
This has been discussed here many times. If I can find a post listing those businesses I will reference it. It was a florist, I think in New Mexico, two or three bakeries, one in Oregon, one in Colorado, a photographer, I think in Arizona, at least. Also a pizza business somewhere in the South but Christians rallied to save them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm soooooooo sorry I have to correct you as usual. I did make comments about the issues from time to time and wish I hadn't because it wasn't what I was interested in. You should have noted that I didn't say I didn't discuss them at all, only that it was the PC topic that was my focus.
Also I'm not just talking about personal attacks as such, I'm talking about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS which I've described in Message 837. I don't care all that much if you call someone stu-pid, I'm talking about POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, which is a special brand of propaganda/slander. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actually, for the most part I applied those labels to Trump based on the words out of his mouth Your PC presumptuous mindreading of his words, not anything he actually said.
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