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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Do you still beat your wife? Is that true or not?
That's your answer.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Torture is evil, and not merely wrong. As to whether Trump is evil -- that, I do not know. He might just be playing fundamentalists for fools (and doing so very effectively). I think he's straight myself, and since "torture is evil" according to you in keeping with politically correct guidelines, there being no other possible opinion, then he must be evil too, and of course that just adds another voice against the evil Republicans, and another glittering halo to their opponents, which would probably blind us if you were to allow us to see it.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Did Donald Trump tell his Brown Shirts to throw the Sanders supporters that came to Trumps rally out in the cold and to not give them their coats?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Faith changed Brown to White writes: Did Donald Trump tell his White Shirts to throw the Sanders supporters that came to Trumps rally out in the cold and to not give them their coats? I hope so. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
nd of course that just adds another voice against the evil Republicans How many of the republican candidates favor waterboarding? I'll note that a couple of his fellow candidates have already rebuked Trump for his 50 bullets dipped in blood story. There is pretty widespread non-partisan agreement that we don't torture. There are of course exceptions in both parties, so no, it is not just another voice against the evil republicans. Here is a fact for you.
quote: That's right. The Republican controlled Congress. Ted Cruz voted for the bill, but Cruz seems fuzzy about whether waterboarding is torture. Many Congressman on both sides of the aisle don't want to be involved in torture, including waterboarding. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Groovy, thanks for the information.
That still doesn't make Trump into Evil Personified, motivated by revenge, a hater or all the rest of it. In fact it may show that his fellow Republicans are just wimps who have to rebuke him because they're intimidated by leftist moralistic fingerpointing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: jar writes: Did Donald Trump tell his White Shirts to throw the Sanders supporters that came to Trumps rally out in the cold and to not give them their coats? I hope so. Thank you for admitting that you are evil, beyond the pale and without humanity. Perhaps your post will help folk realize just how big a danger US Biblical Christians are to everyone in the world; a far bigger threat than all the Muslim terrorist could ever be. Also note that Faith once again lies by quoting me and at the same time changing and misrepresenting what I said. Edited by jar, : edited to point out Faiths utter dishonesty yet again.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
As I said, they have found someone to help them justify their hate.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
That still doesn't make Trump into Evil Personified, motivated by revenge, a hater or all the rest of it. What I said was that his statements were xenophobic. I haven't seen any argument from you to the contrary. I asked you what motivation beyond revenge would there be in using torture if it did not work, and you acknowledged that it should not be used in that case.
...it may show that his fellow Republicans are just wimps... intimidated by leftist moralistic fingerpointing...
Aren't these exactly the kind of statements you are accusing others of making? Vilifying someone simply because they disagree. In any event, what it does show is that statements about Trump are not statements about Republicans in general. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh, liberals are such tender little blossoms. It was of course Siberia and there was no shelter available for hundreds of miles.
As for changing your quote, yes I should have made it clear that was my correction, sorry about that. But otherwise I just love being called evil by you, I really do. You are PC to an absurdity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That still doesn't make Trump into Evil Personified, motivated by revenge, a hater or all the rest of it. What I said was that his statements were xenophobic. I haven't seen any argument from you to the contrary. I asked you what motivation beyond revenge would there be in using torture if it did not work, and you acknowledged that it should not be used in that case. He said it works. He wouldn't recommend it if it didn't. Xenophobic is a damning accusation. So is anything that presumes to know a person's motives toward other people or whatever that category should be. How dare anyone psychoanalyze an opponent's opinion in such an intrusive highhanded self-righteous way. But it's typical of the left. No civility, no grace, no benefit of the doubt to anybody they've targeted. Even if I despised somebody I wouldn't use that sort of invasive condemnatory accusation. Namecalling is NOT the same thing.
...it may show that his fellow Republicans are just wimps... intimidated by leftist moralistic fingerpointing...
Aren't these exactly the kind of statements you are accusing others of making? Vilifying someone simply because they disagree. In any event, what it does show is that statements about Trump are not statements about Republicans in general. I wish you'd make an effort to understand that Political Correctness is its own brand of propaganda. Being a wimp isn't evil, being intimidated isn't evil, but PC brands a person as evil, inhumane, intolerant, bigoted, and does so by using the most incendiary damning terms possible according to leftist standards, including racist, xenophobic, homophobic and so on. You aren't worth spitting on after PC has branded you, you aren't human, you're on the level of vermin. Just reading the leftist rhetoric at EvC brings this out. No, it is not just namecalling or insulting people. Once again here's the original essay on Political Correctness Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Xenophobic is a damning accusation. It is damning but it is addressed to the content of Trump's statement. And it does not necessarily speak to motive. Trump might well be just saying stuff because other people like hearing it. In any event, a statement that immigrants are rapist and bad people may be well meaning, but the content of the statement is still an attach on an entire collection of people who are demonstrably no more criminal than any other group of random folks. Such statements are despicable and wrong regardless of their motivation. I'll call Trump on those statements in exactly the same as I called you for making statements regarding "the black community", your BS explanations not withstanding.
Being a wimp isn't evil, being intimidated isn't evil And we can all see that what you are doing is impugning a motive for why those people take a position and that such impugning is exactly what you are saying we should not do to Trump. You also tried to tell us that our accusations against Trump were applicable to republicans in general. But that wasn't correct, was it? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
In any event, a statement that immigrants are rapist and bad people may be well meaning THAT'S A LIE. He said no such thing.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
He wouldn't recommend it if it didn't. Not quite. After insisting that it works and that people who said that it would not work were stupid, Trump said that if it didn't work we should do it anyway. Why aren't you calling Trump on that? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
THAT'S A LIE. He said no such thing. No, he said he presumed that some of them were good people. The implication of his statement is extremely obvious, and has been repeated over and over in this thread. You said that if any of them were rapists, that you had no problem with Trump's statement. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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