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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Better theologians than you support the death penalty for murder. And besides the Mosaic Law we also and most particularly have the law given to Noah by God: whoever sheds man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed, because he is the image of God.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Better theologians than you support the death penalty for murder. Well, that's a matter of opinion. But I would say that no-one would be a good theologian if and when he used your particular argument --- that Jesus would support the death penalty for murder because it was in the Mosaic Law --- since the same argument fails if you apply it to adultery. An argument that breaks down in one instance should not be relied on in another.
And besides the Mosaic Law we also and most particularly have the law given to Noah by God: whoever sheds man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed, because he is the image of God. Also there's the law given to Noah about not eating flesh with the blood in it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Then here's the clincher: NONE of the Mosaic Law was rescinded in any real sense, no "jot nor tittle" of it as Jesus said, but every dot and comma is to be fulfilled, and the way that happens is that Jesus' death on the cross fulfilled it all for us.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Welp. This thread is dead.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
but every dot and comma is to be fulfilled, and the way that happens is that Jesus' death on the cross fulfilled it all for us. Don't you mean "and the way that happened?" Just which side of the argument is this phrase supposed to support. Doesn't it support the proposition that you yourself are no longer bound by Mosaic law? After all, Jesus death on the cross and his resurrection was completed over 2000 years ago. Isn't that the time of the law's fulfillment? Does this make it easier to explain why Trump told that story of killing 49 out of 50 prisoners of war and sending the 50th one home to tell the tale? I don't think so, but perhaps you have an explanation. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
but every dot and comma is to be fulfilled, and the way that happens is that Jesus' death on the cross fulfilled it all for us.
Don't you mean "and the way that happened?" Just which side of the argument is this phrase supposed to support. Doesn't it support the proposition that you yourself are no longer bound by Mosaic law? After all, Jesus death on the cross and his resurrection was completed over 2000 years ago. Isn't that the time of the law's fulfillment? I don't get what you are saying here. Yes I am no longer under the Mosaic Law because Jesus paid for my sins against it.
Does this make it easier to explain why Trump told that story of killing 49 out of 50 prisoners of war and sending the 50th one home to tell the tale? I don't think so, but perhaps you have an explanation. I'm not trying to explain the story, or I've already explained it as far as I intend to. I don't recall any connection between these two subjects. I hope you like Downton Abbey, I've been rather addicted to it and am watching it from the beginning again.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No thread is ever really dead. You can revive the original topic pretty soon I think. The digression has gone on way too long but I think that is about dead too.
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Admin Director Posts: 13042 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
For anyone interested in discussing the topic, the South Carolina Democratic primary is this Saturday, February 27th. Then next week on March 1st is Super Tuesday, when Alabama, Alaska (Republican only), American Samoa, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont and Virginia hold primaries.
A few possible discussion subtopics:
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I don't get what you are saying here. Yes I am no longer under the Mosaic Law because Jesus paid for my sins against it. So quit citing Mosaic law as an argument.
I don't recall any connection between these two subjects.
I've already explained it as far as I intend to As I recall, the question came up because of people questioned that executions were not Christlike. I understand why you cannot address the question though. There is no real answer that an evangelical Christians can use that helps explain their attraction to Trump regardless of what he says. And that is the question that brings us on topic. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Mosaic Law is still in force you know, for people who do not put their trust in Christ.
But I don't think it makes sense to assume that Jesus opposed the death penalty for murder just because He opposed it for adultery. I believe I've explained attraction to Trump by conservatives of any religious background: he is bold about national security, which is one issue that interests us. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I believe I've explained attraction to Trump by conservatives of any religious background: he is bold about national security, which is one issue that interests us. Yet he has made absolutely no suggestions that would actually help security as you have been shown. How do you explain your position when it is totally refuted by the facts and reality?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I wouldn't cry if a few dozen lost their coats.quote:By the way, wouldn't taking somebody's coat be considered theft?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Actually, He'd tell whomever is without sin to cast the first stone - i.e. nobody.
P.S. "What would Jesus do?" He'd support the death penalty for murderers as the Mosaic Law commands.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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So in other words, you cherry pick the laws you want to follow. Now that we have cleared that up, seems you don't have an argument.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Admin writes:
That's been the gist of the "digressions" in this topic. Trump is so appealing because he appeals to people's basest instincts: greed, revenge, etc.
Why is Trump so appealing?
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