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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Sorting Fact from Fiction in the Story of Abby Johnson, the Pro-Life Star of 'Unplanned'
It's really too complex to try to cut it down to message size or summarize other than her story doesn't add up. What browser do you use? They all have a way to invert colors to get away from all that white.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You posted a bunch of pro abortion propaganda and I did think I answered it sufficiently.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I read some of it but it's ridiculous to think she'd give false information that could be checked so easily. Besides I recall it as thirteen weeks, not ten, and she'd seen her own baby on ultrasound at the same stage. She'd simply not seen an abortion performed while watching the baby on the ultrasound screen. What upset her as I recall was seeing the fetus try to jerk away from the instrument trying to kill it. She was horrified because she'd thought at that stage they couldn't feel anything and was seeing that obviously it does feel.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
You posted a bunch of pro abortion propaganda and I did think I answered it sufficiently. uh, no, he didn't, and no, you didn't. Try again. But this time, please actually try.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sorry, what I said is the truth. And Ms Oh-oh is a she.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
No I didn't and no you didn't. Please stop lying.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Again all you do is assert. Please at least try to post some evidence that supports you.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
WTF are you a talking about?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
I read some of it but it's ridiculous to think she'd give false information that could be checked so easily. Besides I recall it as thirteen weeks, not ten, and she'd seen her own baby on ultrasound at the same stage. She'd simply not seen an abortion performed while watching the baby on the ultrasound screen. What upset her as I recall was seeing the fetus try to jerk away from the instrument trying to kill it. She was horrified because she'd thought at that stage they couldn't feel anything and was seeing that obviously it does feel. So then your excuse is medical ignorance? All your excuses on all kinds of issues (eg, geology, genetics) are based on complete and total ignorance of whatever you are yammering and pontificating about. Here's a quote from a famous ancient Chinese general, Sun Tzu:
quote:If you are ignorant of your enemy, your only chance is to know yourself. Yet you do not know yourself (eg, what does the Bible actually say about abortion? Oh yeah, you have absolutely no idea!), so you automatically place yourself in the position of being constantly in peril. For a change, please do some actual research. Find out all the medical aspects of abortion and of embryonic/fetal development. Until you have done that, you cannot possibly know anything about this issue. Have you never been in a high school physiology class? Preparing for Alessandro Volta's classic experiment of a frog's leg muscle's response to electricity we were lectured on how to perform a "double-pithing": first you insert the needle-like probe into the frog's brain and move it about to destroy the brain tissue, but then you drive it straight down the spine to destroy the spinal cord. Well, somebody had set the refrigerator's thermostat too low which killed all our frogs, so we had to skip that experiment. But if we had done it, then the dissected and dead frog-leg muscles would have responded to the electrical stimuli. Did those dead frog-leg muscles feel anything? They reacted, but did they feel? I remember when my mother died. Long suffering from adult-onset diabetes, she needed cardiac by-pass surgery and her indominable spirit misled her surgeon into thinking she was strong enough. She wasn't. There was an implanted bladder that helped her heart. Her organs were failing and we turned that off according to her wishes. Her body seemed to carry on past that point. With medical training, you could determine those things. Without it, you have nothing to go on.
She was horrified because she'd thought at that stage they couldn't feel anything and was seeing that obviously it does feel. She worked in administration with no medical training that we know of. How could she possibly assess what she was seeing?
Learn something about what you are opposing! Your persistent refusal to do so only betrays the weaknesses of your own position.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
And Ms Oh-oh is a she. Faith's brain obviously just stopped working. Edited by dwise1, : clean-up
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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I read some of it but it's ridiculous to think she'd give false information that could be checked so easily.
Con men do it all the time. The sheep don't check. E.g. you never check your sources. I see you have no response to the facts presented in that article.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Unbelievable the lengths you all go to in order to turn the truth on its head. Gosh even a science experiment to prove Abby wasn't seeing the fetus react to pain. Given that interpretation and her interpretation I'm going with hers. Abby Johnson is no con man, unbelievable how you all have to resort to that sort of ad hominem -- always always always. Oh so and so is a liar, and that takes care of whatever needs taking care of. Also, the fetus at that stage sucks its thumb and otherwise acts like a baby, but there's a lot invested in saying it's not a baby nevertheless. Honestly what a lot of garbage. I hope I get to see the film soon.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Given that interpretation and her interpretation I'm going with hers.
Of course you do.
Oh so and so is a liar, and that takes care of whatever needs taking care of.
No. So and so is a liar and should be taken with a large grain of salt. But that sure gets you out of addressing the real issues, amirite?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What real issues? The usual debunkery of anything I say doesn't qualify as a real issue. There is no way Abby Johnson is a liar.
And jerking away from a source of pain doesn't sound to me anything like a mere muscle spasm. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The article I posted outlined her lies. They are irrefutable. Did you bother to read the article?
Edited by Theodoric, : capitlizationFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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