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dwise1
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Message 1336 of 5796 (851127)
04-20-2019 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1335 by Theodoric
04-19-2019 10:28 PM


Did you bother to read the article?
Of course not! She never reads anything that could ever contradict what she already believes. She willfully practices willful stupidity, denying reality when it conflicts with her own personal delusions.

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JonF
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Message 1337 of 5796 (851131)
04-20-2019 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1334 by Faith
04-19-2019 10:18 PM


There is no way Abby Johnson is a liar.
She's a liar. We understand that you think nobody that agrees with you can lie and everyone that doesn't agree with you is lying.
Your beliefs do not change reality.

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Theodoric
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Message 1338 of 5796 (851132)
04-20-2019 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1334 by Faith
04-19-2019 10:18 PM


More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Did they even bother to have a medical expert to make a basic attempt at reality?
quote:
Abortion makes up only 3.4 percent of its services, according to its most recent annual report
So the idea that they need to "sell" abortions is false on its face.
The Anti-Abortion Movie ‘Unplanned’ Is Loaded With Dangerous Lies | HuffPost Women

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 1339 of 5796 (851133)
04-20-2019 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1338 by Theodoric
04-20-2019 10:13 AM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
To be fair it's non-trivial to measure what percentage of PP's service's are abortion, although it's obviously far less than half. The 3.4% is based on number of services and counts handing out a pack of condoms the same as an abortion. Many people disagree with that methodology.

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Message 1340 of 5796 (851135)
04-20-2019 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1339 by JonF
04-20-2019 11:01 AM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here. Please provide source explaining the methodology issues you reference. Abortion services are a minor part of the services Planned Parenthood provides. That is a fact.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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JonF
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Message 1341 of 5796 (851141)
04-20-2019 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1340 by Theodoric
04-20-2019 11:47 AM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Abortion services are a minor part of the services Planned Parenthood provides. That is a fact.
Yes.
As for methodology, see Planned Parenthood Annual Report 2018, page numbered 25. (332,757/9,687,070)*100 = 3.4%.
For going way overboard in the opposite direction, see Planned Parenthood's Services - FactCheck.org

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Message 1342 of 5796 (851143)
04-20-2019 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1316 by ooh-child
04-18-2019 2:32 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Didn't read a bit of it, did you? What a silly, sad old woman you appear to be.
I did read all of it and as I said it's just standard propaganda which I've already answered.
Ad hominems are SO effective aren't they?

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Message 1343 of 5796 (851144)
04-20-2019 2:08 PM
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04-20-2019 12:55 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Abortion services are a minor part of the services Planned Parenthood provides
What other services do they provide? Propagandizing your children in the schools I know is one of them. How big a percentage of their services does that amount to? They also provide contraception I believe, but that's probably a pretty small proportion as there are many other ways people can get it. Selling baby parts? Disposing of dead fetuses? Talking women into abortions and never giving them the other side of the story?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1344 of 5796 (851145)
04-20-2019 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1276 by Theodoric
04-17-2019 10:15 AM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
If you want me to read something please quote some part of it, a brief part preferably, and I cannot read long white pages. Sorry, but my eyes can't do it without too much strain.\
And refraining from abusive language would help as a motivator too.
Thank you for your kind consideration.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 1345 of 5796 (851151)
04-20-2019 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1342 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:03 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
I did read all of it and as I said it's just standard propaganda which I've already answered.
Declaring facts "standaard propaganda" so you can ignore them (no, you didn't already answer them) is SO effective, isn't it?

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JonF
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Message 1346 of 5796 (851152)
04-20-2019 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1344 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:17 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
I did read all of it and...
All those long white pages?
I cannot read long white pages
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1347 of 5796 (851154)
04-20-2019 3:05 PM
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04-20-2019 3:00 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
You are confusing two references. I did read all of the quote supplied by Ooh-child, but couldn't read the article posted by Theodoric. If you EVER gave me the benefit of the doubt of course you'd have figured that out, but that isn't ever going to happen, is it?

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Message 1348 of 5796 (851155)
04-20-2019 3:08 PM
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04-20-2019 2:59 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
I did answer them. Ron Paul's story and Northam's description of how to comfort an aborted baby while it is dying. The debunkery of those examples doesn't work, they are evidence that full term abortions do happen and the baby is not rescued.

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ringo
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Message 1349 of 5796 (851157)
04-20-2019 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1348 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:08 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
quote:
“Who are we to decide that that we are going to pick one and throw one away and struggle to save another?”
-- Ron Paul
Exactly. It should not be our decision. It should be the woman's.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith 
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Message 1350 of 5796 (851158)
04-20-2019 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1349 by ringo
04-20-2019 3:13 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
It shouldn't be anybody's decision. If the woman doesn't want the baby at that stage it should be given up for adoption and she should have been well prepared in advance for that. Anything else is manslaughter.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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