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JonF
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Message 1351 of 5796 (851159)
04-20-2019 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1343 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:08 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Propagandizing your children in the schools I know is one of them
Nope.
They also provide contraception I believe, but that's probably a pretty small proportion as there are many other ways people can get it.
Especially poor people who can't afford it, right? It's 27% of the total number of services they supply, 2,620,867 instances in 2018.
Disposing of dead fetuses?
That comes under abortion.
Talking women into abortions and never giving them the other side of the story?
You are confusing Planned Parenthood with Christian Crisis Pregnancy Centers, who never mention abortion and harass people ho want one. No, Planned Parenthood does not talk women into abortions, and they always include all possible actions. Attention Required! | Cloudflare:
quote:
I’m pregnant ” now what?
Finding out you’re pregnant when you don’t expect it can be stressful, but it’s a pretty common experience ” about half of all women in the U.S. have an unplanned pregnancy at some point in their lives.
People who are pregnant have 3 options:
  • Parenting ” giving birth and raising the child.
  • Abortion ” taking medication or having a medical procedure that ends the pregnancy.
  • Adoption ” giving birth and placing your child with another person or family permanently.
Sometimes deciding what to do about an unplanned pregnancy is easy. Other times, it’s difficult or complicated. Your decision is very personal, and everyone’s situation is different. You’re the only person walking in your shoes, so the decision is 100% yours.
The other sections on the page are "What can I think about to help me decide?", "Who can I talk with about my options?", and "When do I need to make a decision?"
The "Who can I talk to section starts "Talking with your partner, someone in your family, a friend, a trusted religious advisor, or a counselor about unplanned pregnancy options can be helpful when you’re trying to figure out what to do." and ends "No one should pressure you into making any decision about your pregnancy, no matter what. Only you know what’s right for yourself at the moment. So getting the info and support you need from people who’ll give you the real facts and will support you is important. If you’re having a hard time finding someone in your life to talk with, check out All-Options. All-Options has a free hotline that gives you a confidential space to talk about making decisions about a pregnancy. They’ll give you judgement-free support at any point in your pregnancy experience, no matter what choice you make or how you feel about it."
As usual your sources are lying to you.

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JonF
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Message 1352 of 5796 (851160)
04-20-2019 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1347 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:05 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
I did read all of the quote supplied by Ooh-child,
Which is acres of white space. My criticism stands.

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ringo
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Message 1353 of 5796 (851161)
04-20-2019 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1350 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:16 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Faith writes:
Anything else is manslaughter.
Obviously not, or you'd be pushing for the woman to be prosecuted for manslaughter.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith 
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Message 1354 of 5796 (851162)
04-20-2019 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1353 by ringo
04-20-2019 3:21 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Oh for pete's sake get off your legalistic high horse. You know I don't mean it's intentional, it's the product of ignorance. Find the right term and stop the willful confusion.

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Faith 
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Message 1355 of 5796 (851163)
04-20-2019 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1351 by JonF
04-20-2019 3:18 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
They are good at their propaganda. The truth will out eventually.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 198 days)
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Message 1356 of 5796 (851164)
04-20-2019 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1348 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:08 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
they are evidence that full term abortions do happen and the baby is not rescued.
1. Late term abortions do happen, very rarely. You claimed "many".
2. In almost all late term abortions the fetus is not viable an/oir giving birth would cause irreversible and extremely dangerous damage to the mother and the fetus.
3. I've never heard of Northern saying anything close to "how to comfort an aborted baby while it is dying". He did say:
quote:
"[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. "The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
The bill -- which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm "that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman's death or impairment of her mental or physical health" and ends "the need to find that any such impairment to the woman's health would be substantial and irremediable" -- is currently tabled in Virginia's legislature.
Northam said he supports the bill's measures, telling WTOP that "we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers."

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ringo
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Message 1357 of 5796 (851165)
04-20-2019 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1354 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:24 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Faith writes:
Oh for pete's sake get off your legalistic high horse. You know I don't mean it's intentional, it's the product of ignorance. Find the right term and stop the willful confusion.
You're the one who's confused about terminology. Manslaughter is a crime. I did notice that you've backed off from "murder" but you're still being dishonest, if only with yourself.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 198 days)
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Message 1358 of 5796 (851166)
04-20-2019 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1350 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:16 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Anything else is manslaughter.
That's your opinion, to which you are entitled. Many agree with you. However, a majority (around 60%) of the American people disagree.

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JonF
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Message 1359 of 5796 (851168)
04-20-2019 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1355 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:26 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
They are good at their propaganda. The truth will out eventually.
What I posted are facts. BUt as usual you declare it propaganda to avoid facing reality.

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Faith 
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Message 1360 of 5796 (851170)
04-20-2019 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1359 by JonF
04-20-2019 3:32 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
I KNOW it's propaganda. At best it's true of some outpost of PP, it's certainly not true of the whole organization.

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Faith 
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Message 1361 of 5796 (851171)
04-20-2019 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1357 by ringo
04-20-2019 3:29 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Calling me dishonest is just another Leftty smear term. Why can't you Lefties ever just treat people fairly? You know, benefit of the doubt and all that. Fairness doesn't seem to exist in your universe, an opponent MUST be some kind of miscreant.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1362 of 5796 (851174)
04-20-2019 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1361 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:41 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Faith writes:
Why can't you Lefties ever just treat people fairly?
Why can't you address what I said instead of trying to divert attention with your insane hatred of fictional "lefties"?
The point was that IF you really believed that abortion was either murder or manslaughter, you would be pushing for abortion to be treated as a crime. If you don't do so, how is your position not dishonest?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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JonF
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Message 1363 of 5796 (851178)
04-20-2019 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1360 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:38 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
You KNOW it's propaganda because otherwise you'd have to admit error. And that's unthinkable, amirite? “I’ve made up my mind ” don’t confuse me with facts.”
It's the report of the entire organization, showing the services they offer. Abortion is a very small part of what each and every one does. Many Planned Parent clinics do not even offer abortions.

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Theodoric
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Message 1364 of 5796 (851192)
04-20-2019 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1344 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:17 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
The evidence has already been spoon fed to you. If you havent read it how can you refute it? You have no idea what it claims.
There are plenty of ways to change how websites are displayed. If you are too lazy or ignorant to figure out how, that is your problem not mine. But do not claim an article is wrong if you have never even read it.
Edited by Theodoric, : punctuation

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1365 of 5796 (851193)
04-20-2019 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1350 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:16 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Late term abortions are not done because a woman decides she does not want the baby. They are done because of health issues for the baby and/or the mother.
Edited by Theodoric, : Oops wrong word

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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