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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Trump or Jesus
Trump followers might find it difficult.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: The courts so far have held that the demands for the tax returns are legal. Trump is insisting on a major expansion of Presidential immunity to keep them secret. Which is consistent with the entire Trump a attitude to investigation going back to the seventies. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Funny how the woman who linked to Russian state media trashing Biden still hasn’t figured out that the Russians are backing Trump.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: You linked to a Russia Today video to prove that Biden boasted about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor sacked. Which wasn’t the only attack on Biden there.
quote: Apart from the advertising, the leak of the DNC emails, the trashing of a Biden, the Trump Tower meeting... Nobody can be this blind.
quote: Russia is practically at war with the Ukraine. That’s WHY America is giving military aid to the Ukraine. Fortunately the Republicans in Congress aren’t as pro-Russian as Trump.
quote: Which would be a reason for the current Russian government to oppose her.
quote: He’s been pretty reluctant in fact.
quote: The aid he tried to block until Congress made him release it. And military aid was sent to the Ukraine under Obama.
quote: Because Trump is so divisive, he weakens America, that’s why the Russians are so happy what is going on, as the Republican Party rallies around the cover-up. And we know that you’re the one supplying the lying propaganda here. As usual.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Zelensky explicitly mentioned the missiles - which the military aid was for. Trump immediately asked for a favour,
quote: Trump wasn’t concerned with corruption, he wanted Zelensky to help find the imaginary server and to announce that Hunter Biden was being investigated (see Sondland’s testimony - Trump didn’t need an actual investigation, just the announcement). And since you mention corruption it seems that Politico got it’s facts wrong. Manafort’s dealings with the Russians were revealed by anti-corruption investigators, BBCPresident Trump's supporters suggest this document was a fake and that it was deliberately leaked by a Ukrainian journalist turned politician, Sergei Leschenko, who hated Mr Trump. The problem is that the sections released by Mr Leschenko did not refer to Paul Manafort at all. The material related to Mr Manafort was made public by an official Ukrainian anti-corruption body. The aid was given - but only because Republican Senators pushed Trump into it. And the White House visit for Zelensky - the other part of the deal - has not happened.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Sondland donated a million dollars to Trump’s inauguration. Which likely had a lot to do with his appointment.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: It’s even crazier than that. The idea that the Democrats would damage their own campaign to have an insurance policy against Trump winning is obviously absurd. Especially when there seems to be no idea of how it could work.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: And you are the one responsible for the reversal. Indeed it’s one of your favourite tactics. It’s the Republicans who obstructed judicial appointments under Obama, so they could flood the courts with political appointees. It’s the Republicans who are caught in electoral fraud. It’s the Republicans who are gerrymandering and engaging in voter suppression tactics. And there are plenty of Republican hate mongers like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh and worse. We really don’t see anything like as much from the Democrats.
quote: By which you mean you hate Schiff for his part in bringing the evidence of misdeeds to light. Hate and smears. That’s the Republican defence. To my mind that’s an admission of guilt.
quote: The Democrats are acting within the Constitution- it’s the Republican obstruction and smears which are the problem.
quote: Yes, the Republicans want the Russians to meddle with the election. On their behalf, want to be able to obstruct allinvestigation - and talk as if that’s their right, The Republicans are out to destroy the Republic. They want sham elections and show trials. Stalin would be proud,
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Yes we understand that you think it’s right to smear the Democrats and wrong to tell the truth about the Republicans. But that’s an example of the hate. You choose to listen to the hate because you love it. You choose to reject accurate reporting as fake news. But that’s your problem, not ours.
quote: Coulter was always off the rails. That’s what you liked. The others are just as bad.
quote: And there you go with the reversal tactic again. It’s really overused, and not very clever.
quote: You mean that you hope that the real evidence gets covered up in favour of your ridiculous false narrative, the Russians did nothing to support Hilary Clinton. And Politico got it wrong about the Ukraine - it was their anti-corruption organisation that exposed Manafort.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Actually that really is what you mean. You don’t want the actual facts to come out you just want your false narrative to be confirmed. There is no sign of the Russians supporting Hilary Clinton at all. But there is plenty of evidence of the Russians supporting Trump.
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quote: Yes, the Republican Party is firmly anti-American, spitting on the Constitution in the name of retaining power. And you support that. Let us note that these accusations lack any factual basis and even misrepresent the very nature of the proceedings. And it comes from someone who wants Stalinist show-trials of political opponents.
quote: And more false accusations all in the name of protecting a president who’s been shown to be corrupt.
quote: That’s exactly what the Republicans are doing. And you’re all for it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Which argues against the US alliance with Saudi Arabia - supported by the Right.
Remember the fuss over Trump’s Muslim ban ? Remember how the leftists here argued that the exclusion of Saudi Arabia from the list of affected countries was significant and a problem ? The problem is not religious freedom, the problem is support for Saudi Arabia - and that comes from the Right even more than it does the Left. For you to turn around and ignore that and to use it as an excuse for overturning Constitutional freedoms is - the sort of thing we expect. Well done, living down to our low opinions of you and the Right. .
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Notably you and Marc. This is why your call for education looks more like a call for a misinformation campaign. Just another of your attacks on the Constitution.
quote: Notably you, again.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Making up ridiculous fantasies only confirms my point. There is nothing Marxist for instance in accepting that non-citizens are people.
quote: Misrepresentations have no place in honest education. And that is what you want.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The only way to right a completely imaginary wrong is to genuinely commit that same wrong. And you don’t think that’s nuts ?
Partisan abuse of the Impeachment power to the extent - and Levin is openly intending to abuse it - is a real threat to the Republic. Of course it won’t work if you actually follow the model of the proceedings, so no doubt additional abuses would be required. And of course you’ll support the pretence that the Democrats did the same thing. It’s so obviously vile and corrupt and harmful to the Republic - and obviously unChristian - that I’m not surprised you love it. It really does confirm my view of you.
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