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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Clinton's actual obstruction of justice.
No such thing happened, and irrelevant anyway.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
JonF writes: Clinton's actual obstruction of justice.
No such thing happened, and irrelevant anyway. Should acquittal be interpreted as nothing happened? There was evidence of things Clinton did to obstruct justice. Here's the list:
--Percy
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: Well sometimes pertinent anyway, but in this case there is no corrupt President . . . That's not for you to decide. That power lies with Congress. Determining if a corrupt President should be impeached and/or removed from office is a constitutional power given to Congress by the US Constitution. It is not an abuse of power to use them in the manner they were meant to be used. Nowhere in the US Constitution does it give POTUS the power to use foreign aid to leverage foreign investigations into his political rivals.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Limbaugh just announced this. They are now investigating, according to him, whether there might be a terrorist motive.
Golly gosh, they have to investigate the obvious. I guess the Left is never going to recognize the obvious truth that Islam is a terrorist organization, it trains members that show an inclination to live out that part of their religion to kill "infidels" whether by suicide bombing or other means. This is another indication of how the Left's Pollitical Correctness which is a shackling of freedom of thought is putting us all in danger. Political Correctness insists that we treat Islam as just another religion like all others and completely ignore its history of murder ON THE BASIC OF ITS IDEOLOGY in order to bring about "converts," as when Mohammed murdered a whole community of Jews for refusing to convert to Islam. Its own "holy" writings prescribe subjugating the infidel, to the point of killing him. \ Now, of course at this point we do not know the motivation of this shooter from Saudi Arabia and of course there is at least a very slim chance that his motivation was not connected to Islam, but face it, the chance is very very slim indeed. This is what good followers of Allah are supposed to do, it's considered to be a high moral act to kill those who reject Allah, it is supposed to get them a very earthly sounding paradise as a reward. But we are supposed to ignore all this ideological threat to the wellbeing of everyone who rejects Islam and Allah, we are supposed to apply our own timehonored civil rights to Muslims 3without regard to their ideological commitments. So we are to accept Muslim refugeesz into our midst for instance. This is merely humane. Well, cdertainly MOST Muslims don't act on that part of their religion, and there are even some who have a different theology about all that which keeps them from such actions, but in its pure form it has always been understood to be about subjugatihng the whole world, by murder if necessary, to the rule of Allah. And any Muslims community or family can produce an individual who decides to commit to the "pure" ideology of Islam and become a murderer. \ Now we're going to get all the bogus claims that Christianity does the same thing and it absolutely does not. The Roman Church that murdered for its belierfs was not acting on the Bible, it was violating the Bible. Violence in the Bible is not prescribe ed it is historically described and that's all. Followers of Islam on the other hand are obeying its sacred books in committing murder. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not for me to decide, but everybody else here feels free to decide it. Calling Trump corrupt is deciding it. He did not do what you are saying he did. I hope this is made clear. The House Republicans are doing a pretty good job of that so far.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Which argues against the US alliance with Saudi Arabia - supported by the Right.
Remember the fuss over Trump’s Muslim ban ? Remember how the leftists here argued that the exclusion of Saudi Arabia from the list of affected countries was significant and a problem ? The problem is not religious freedom, the problem is support for Saudi Arabia - and that comes from the Right even more than it does the Left. For you to turn around and ignore that and to use it as an excuse for overturning Constitutional freedoms is - the sort of thing we expect. Well done, living down to our low opinions of you and the Right. .
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: Not for me to decide, but everybody else here feels free to decide it. All of us are voicing our opinions. None of us have a vote on impeachment or removal.
Calling Trump corrupt is deciding it. Read the Constitution. Nowhere does the Constitution state that impeachment is decided by a citizen calling the President corrupt.
He did not do what you are saying he did. There is no evidence that would ever change your mind, so your proclamations are worthless. You will blindly support Trump no matter what he does. For the rest of us, facts matter, and the facts demonstrate Trump withheld aid as leverage for foreign investigations into his political rivals. We will see if facts matter to Republicans in the Senate.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: I guess the Left is never going to recognize the obvious truth that Islam is a terrorist organization, Islam is a religion, not an organization.
Political Correctness insists that we treat Islam as just another religion like all others and completely ignore its history of murder ON THE BASIC OF ITS IDEOLOGY in order to bring about "converts," as when Mohammed murdered a whole community of Jews for refusing to convert to Islam. Its own "holy" writings prescribe subjugating the infidel, to the point of killing him. Do you think we should throw people in jail for simply being Muslim? At least for me, religious freedom matters. People shouldn't be punished by the government because of the religion they belong to. Instead, people should be punished for the actions they take. I guess you don't believe in religious freedoms?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Limbaugh is also good on Pelosi's speech yesterday. Didn't we think this supposed withholding of aid by Trump was to force an investigation of Biden's son? So how come now she's saying it was really about benefiting Russia. Ha ha. They don't have anything, they are making it up as they go.
Mark Levin last night was good at exposing how Pelosi's understanding of American history is bogus too. No it did not start in 1776, that was actually the result of many years of offenses by Britain that were being protested in America. I think we all need a good solid education in the Constitution too from what I hear. The Democrats are getting it so wrong it is being shredded by their misreading. Or willful misinterpretation, whichever. I don't feel I have a good understqanding of it either. I think we all need a strong presentation, with lots of presentrs and plenty of argument, to teach us 3what we really need to know so we can judge rightly when its being violated. The House Democrats are saying Trump isviolatingit. All the conservatives I listen to, many of them lawyers and Constitutional scholars, are saying it's the House Democrts who are violating it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No not throw people ihn jailo for being Muslim but stop inviting them into the country, making it clear that Islam is a terrorist organization, educate educate educate, prevent the building of mosques where this murderous ideology is taught and that sort of thing..
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: idn't we think this supposed withholding of aid by Trump was to force an investigation of Biden's son? So how come now she's saying it was really about benefiting Russia. It's both. Trump withholding aid also benefits Russia because Russia is fighting a war with Ukraine. Also, Trump's quid pro quo puts strain on the US/Ukraine relationship which is vital for Ukraine's continued fight against Russia. Time and time again, Trump favors the national interests of Russia over those of the US.
I think we all need a good solid education in the Constitution too from what I hear. You definitely need to read the Constitution, especially the part about the House of Representatives having the sole power of impeachment. The President doesn't get to decide if an impeachment hearing is legitimate or not, nor does the President get to decide if the Executive will obey subpoenas from Congress.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: No not throw people ihn jailo for being Muslim but stop inviting them into the country, That's just as discriminatory. Our founders happened to think that people shouldn't be discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
it isn't a matter of just reading the Conswtitution since people read it and don't get it right, juswt as they read the Bible and don't get it right. Yoyu have to have some knowledge of the histolrical context that most of us do not have, in fact ALL of us these days don't have except those fe3w 3who have carefully studied it, knowledge of how terms are used for instance. For instance the term "bribery" did not mean then what it is being made to mean now.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
yes it is discriminator. Not to discriminate againat an evil ideology is insanity. But note I did not say to jail believers in Islawm juts for believing in it, that is in keeping with what the founders meant. I'm talking about preventing an evil ideology from getting a foothold in the culture and putting us all in danger. I have exactly the same attitude t3woard Marxism and all its offshoots in today's Democratic party, Political correctness and so on. These are alien anti-American ideologies tghat undermine the Constitutionl and Americna culture and put us all in danger of all kinds of tyrannical philosophies, depriving us of all our freedoms in the end.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Notably you and Marc. This is why your call for education looks more like a call for a misinformation campaign. Just another of your attacks on the Constitution.
quote: Notably you, again.
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