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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Soros is obscenely rich and he is on the Left. George Soros made his obscene wealth by trading in financials (equities, bonds, currencies) not by purposely destroying the ecology of this planet.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Isn't the former called Capitalism? Sure is. He is a fat cat capitalist. The right should love him. I guess he doesn't burn enough forests and spill enough oil for them.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Dr. Tangle, please report to Message 2807 STAT.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
But not bad enough to do anything about it, right?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
He will become the First US President to spend all of his life after the Presidency as a criminal in jail. Ya promise?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Check the source you are copying from. There may be an end of file character or some other mark at that point.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Someone could have driven around in a truck and spread snow around my house. Republicans do that you know.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
McNamara and Westmoreland are still at it.
They think they are saving face for the nation but all they do is scar us ever deeper. And we wonder why the world fears and hates us.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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The winner-take-all was not the way it started out, so we could go back to apportioning without an amendment. Maine and Nebraska do not follow the winner-take-all scheme. The decision to allot by proportional representation or not is up to the individual state. Further, to be selected by a party on their slate of electors you take/sign an oath to vote for your party's candidates if elected. I'm not aware of any legal restrictions but I do know that in some states the oath you sign carries fines for not keeping your oath. Since the slate of electors are usually loyal party apparatchiks, if you violate that oath you will not be invited back to any party functions ... ever. You just burned a bridge behind you. Frankly neither the Republicans nor the Democrats want to change the status quo to require proportional representation. In case one was wondering, when you go in the booth and vote for Pres/VP you are actually voting for that party's slate of electors. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I don't see a difference between point 1 he disputes and point 3 he endorses.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
The first point was to protect the smaller states as an intentional policy while in the second it was a compromise agreement to protect the smaller states?
And they were writing a constitution for the new nation. Everything in it is intentional policy even the political compromises. So there is no difference. What have I missed? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
To appease the fears of a bloc of smaller states. Which they did by intentionally adopting a compromise policy.
There is a distinction between principle and compromise. Principle? No one mentioned principle. Besides, you can make political compromises without violating principle. So this is a distinction without a difference. Whether they went into this with the deliberate intention of protecting the smaller states from the bigger ones or arrived at this as a compromise because of the smaller states concerns at being overshadowed by the bigger ones the end point is that one of the reasons the college was set up (and the Senate as well) was to protect the smaller states from being overshadowed by the bigger ones. That is exactly what is being voiced in both points. There is no difference, not in principle or policy or motivation or effect. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Large southern states like Virginia and North Carolina were as concerned as Georgia that as a bloc, the southern states would be at a disadvantage compared to the north if elections were determined by vote. This is all very true. What Amar was doing, however, was splitting a hair by substituting smaller population states for smaller population bloc. The set-up of the Electoral College to help protect smaller population states from the tyranny of the majority shifted from state focus to regional focus. Again, a distinction without a difference. It was intended to give smaller voices more standing in shaping the politics of the day. The college serves that same function today, though many of us don’t appreciate the outcomes being achieved. Seems we all love majority rule as long as we're in the majority. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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I feel too often Americans fall into a crude "states' rights" narrative when discussing the Constitution or the Founders, and I often feel obliged to point out the real life complexities of the issues in the early Republic. Absolutely. But we must also keep in mind that the states’ rights concerns, including the 3/5 compromise, the configuration of the senate and of the electoral college, were concerns of the smaller states being relegated as junior partners instead of as equals with the more populous states. Compromises without which, it was feared, there would be no union. The invocation of states’ rights in the ensuing 80 years was a travesty, maybe even a foreseeable one, but the political climate of the time was not conducive to less without resulting in competing, possibly warring, states as politically fragmented as Europe which the founders were desperately trying to avoid.
If someone is going to argue that the Electoral College is necessary to protect small states from large states or to protect under-populated regions from more populated regions, that argument needs to be developed on its own merits, not based on appeals to the intent of the Framers. One need only read the Federalist Papers to see how important the tension between large/small states were to the compromises made throughout the entire constitution. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
You would have gotten a BIG AMEN if you hadn't go off into the STEM BS.
Our schools are just a start of a basic education. Awareness that things are out there. The real education comes at people every day starting in high school and then forever brought to you by the constant blare of biased media. And they get to pick and choose which media is most entertaining to them since entertainment, not education, is the goal of the 10th grade mentality of the majority of American society. We *could* educate our low mentality populous to higher levels with consistent and accurate explanations but there are too many large, loud, moneyed voices out there with strong political interests in doing the opposite. STEM is NOT the cause of this issue. It holds promise as a major fix with its reliance on critical thinking skills. No, jar. You get a BIG BOO! for that one. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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