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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22509 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
The board software will extract (scrape is the technical term) the headline for you if you just include the bare link. This:
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/02/26/us/politics/ap-us-virus-outbreak-fact-check.html Will give you this:
This is true of all websites I've tried so far except the Washington Post, which somehow knows I'm scraping and introduces somewhere around a 10 second delay. Since I use a 10 second timeout that means the software doesn't usually obtain the Washington Post headline. An upcoming release will change the timeout to 12 seconds which should allow the fetching of Washington Post headlines, but the wait will be annoying. The story describes how the Democratic presidential candidates have been mischaracterizing the Trump administration's efforts at combating the coronavirus, rebutting claims that the CDC's budget has been cut and that its leadership and scientific ranks have been decimated. I'm not sure how accurate this report is because Trump has publicly conceded the decline in the CDC's ranks, stating how easy it will be to bring them back. The report is also inconsistent with the bungled evacuation of US Diamond Princess passengers by inadequately trained CDC personnel, see Trump Was Furious That Passengers With Coronavirus Were Brought Back to U.S. - The New York Times and 14 American cruise passengers with coronavirus among 328 evacuated from Japan to the U.S. They weren't wearing proper protective gear, and they allowed passengers to be evacuated before test results were available. A total of 58 infected passengers were apparently evacuated to the US. 14 were identified after they had already traveled on buses with other passengers, but they were isolated on the planes. An additional 44 weren't identified until they reached the US and so traveled with other passengers. Not a good start, and this article enumerates the struggles state and federal agencies are having in dealing with the threat: Page No Longer Available - The New York Times Another factor raising questions about the Trump administration's handling of the crisis is their attempt to transfer $37 million in funding from the heating assistance program instead of requesting an emergency appropriation bill from Congress (Behind our sluggish response to coronavirus, an unnecessary battle over funding). Winter is not a good time to be raiding the heating assistance program, and the action raises the same constantly asked questions about the Trump administration's commitment to the poor and needy. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar, "heating oil" => "heating".
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm sorry, I simply cannot pay the slightest attention to any of that, really. That kind of "news" about Trump is typical fake news and since it contradicts what I've heard I have to just leave it alone. Just the headline "Trump was furious" tells me it's the usual fake news. Whenever I've checked out that kind of characterization it's always turned out to be completely made up.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You've never checked any claim.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You said the mainstream news media doesn't cover Trump rallies, and each of those articles is about the Trump rally in South Carolina. See excerpts proving this below. But those are NOT about the rally at all, they are about something Trump said. There is no coverage of the fally itself, he could have said what he said anywhere, it's irrelevant that it was said at a rally. If I saw any of those headlines it wouldn't even occur to me it was about a rally. None of it is about the rally itself except in one case for sure and maybe a couple of others, or maybe not. As usual all they want to do is quote something Trump said out of context. Nope, not about the rally. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9208 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Crawl back into your hole you lying troll.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think it's becoming clear that the troll here is you.
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Percy Member Posts: 22509 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: I'm sorry, I simply cannot pay the slightest attention to any of that, really. That kind of "news" about Trump is typical fake news and since it contradicts what I've heard I have to just leave it alone.Just the headline "Trump was furious" tells me it's the usual fake news. Even Fox News reported that Trump was incensed at how matters were handled: Trump furious Americans infected with coronavirus flew back to US without his permission: report | Fox News You dismiss everything you don't like as fake without providing any information or rationale. What do you do when someone dismisses your sources (which you don't provide anyway) as fake? You have to run down facts, something you never do. That's why you're so poorly informed. Please tell us what you heard and what your sources are? We already know what your answer will be: crickets.
Whenever I've checked out that kind of characterization it's always turned out to be completely made up. Go ahead, check it out. Just remember that Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, Jeanine Pirro and Rush LImbaugh are pundits, not reporters. Their shows are meant to be provocative, controversial and over-the-top to garner maximum ratings. They are not sources of accurate information. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Remove redundant sentence.
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Percy Member Posts: 22509 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: You said the mainstream news media doesn't much cover Trump rallies, and each of those articles is about the Trump rally in South Carolina. See excerpts proving this below.
But those are NOT about the rally at all, they are about something Trump said. There is no coverage of the rally itself, he could have said what he said anywhere, it's irrelevant that it was said at a rally. That's the opposite of what you said previously in Message 5105, expressing the importance of where it was that Trump said something:
Faith in Message 5105 writes: Instead it's the usual kind of headline that picks out something Trump said or did, who knows where, no rally mentioned, could have been on the way to his helicopter for all the headline says,... Returning to your current message:
If I saw any of those headlines it wouldn't even occur to me it was about a rally. You've flip-flopped again and stressed the importance that what Trump said was at a rally. Contradictory much? Those aware that Trump was holding a rally in South Carolina would know from the headline that the article was about the rally. Those unaware would know as soon as they read the first paragraph of any article. You might try actually reading the articles if you're going to make claims about what they said. Your guesses about what they said is invariably wrong.
None of it is about the rally itself except in one case for sure and maybe a couple of others, or maybe not. As usual all they want to do is quote something Trump said out of context. Nope, not about the rally. So an article about a rally that reports on what was said at the rally instead of how wonderful the crowd was isn't really about the rally? And I suppose an article about a football game isn't really about the game unless it reports on the crowd and the stadium and how many people were tailgating in the parking lot? A theater critic isn't really writing about the play unless he writes about the building and the audience and the traffic outside? And I suppose a person who raises such ludicrous suggestions isn't a troll? And please tell us what was quoted out of context. In Message 4980 you said that Trump rallies don't "get much coverage if any in the 'real' news":
Faith writes: The rally was last night in Arizona. Since they don't get much coverage if any in the "real" news... I've pretty much proven that wrong in spades. Admit you're wrong. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Improve clarity and grammar.
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Percy Member Posts: 22509 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: Theodoric writes: Crawl back into your hole you lying troll. I think it's becoming clear that the troll here is you. By the definition of troll, you both are:
quote: --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Hoping that ignoring reality will make it go away,Faith?
also looked at Snopes about the cut to the CDC and it's irritatingly wordy but seems to be saying that there was a budget cut PROPOSAL to the CHRONIC DISEASES function of the CDC from before the virus outbreak that has not gone through and from the sound of it wouldn't affect how the virus is dealt with.
There's a lot more than that in the Snopes article. How could you possibly come away with only that???
quote:So he has already cut funding from a directly relevant program. quote:So he completely destroyed the team that should be running the show right now. And the result is Worker threw exception | www.rawstory.com | Cloudflare. Of course you'll cry fake.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
JonF writes: So he completely destroyed the team that should be running the show right now.And the result is ‘It’s complete chaos’: Top Trump aides admit White House is botching the coronavirus response. Of course you'll cry fake. But they have it all under control now. All Federal Government public statements must now first be vetted. Hear no, see no, say no always works. And when it doesn't there is always delegate guilt.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
At CPAC, Glenn Beck says the Bernie Sanders revolution will lead to another Holocaust (Media Matters)
Let’s not forget that Bernie Sanders is Jewish.
And, please, let us stop calling them Bernie bros. Because they are not my brother. They are not something that is funny. They are Bernie Bolsheviks. They are Bernie Brownshirts. That’s what they are. And their revolution will result in death and misery. Another Holodomor. Or another Holocaust. Or whatever we call the next great socialist atrocity.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But remember, the main stream media does not report on how tens of thousands of happy, peaceful people gathered at the Nuremberg Rallies and respond in rapt admiration at the speeches. Instead they try to make the Fhrer look bad.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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Lol.
Yeah, trying to make sure that people who are sick get medical care - that's just like Stalin. But locking kids in cages without soap or toothpaste? That's Freedom! Just like the founding Fathers intended!The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard Feynman
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Percy Member Posts: 22509 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Trump yesterday again misinformed the public about the coronavirus, this time about how long it will be before a vaccine is available. Here's video of his statement queued up to the exact right spot. You need only listen for a few seconds:
You don't even have to watch the video, here's what he said:
quote: Whenever you hear Trump say "I've heard" or "they're saying," you know he's lying or making it up. What he just said is, of course, false, and a scientist sitting only three seats away from Trump, the head of infectious diseases at NIH, Anthony S. Fauci, corrects him. Here's the same video, but this time queued up to where Fauci makes his comments. You need only watch a few seconds:
Or don't watch the video, here's what he said:
quote: Trump was sitting right there as Fauci made his comments. Shouldn't be long until someone gets fired. Probably won't be Fauci because he cleverly directed his comments at presidential advisers, telling them that they should be providing the president more accurate information. Of course Trump's advisors *have* been providing him correct information, he just chooses to say what he wants to make his administration look good, and the truth, and the public with it, be damned. --Percy
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