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Faith 
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Message 4097 of 5796 (869787)
01-05-2020 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 4093 by PaulK
01-05-2020 4:04 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
Oh right, poor search skills. I put in "conservative" and get "Democrat." Wow what lousy search skills I have.
"rightists viciously harassing people?" What are you talking about? If it's true it's great propaganda for the left though, suits them quite well. Probably fake rightists too.
Reviving coal and car manufacturing is part of rebuilding the economy after the environmentalist left has sent jobs to other countries and begun the process of turning America into a third world swamp. We need both but at the moment we've needed a reprieve from the leftist assault on the economy.
Sure, define PC as just "politeness" instead of totalitarian mind control and you've got your Marxist foot in the door.
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Faith 
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Message 4100 of 5796 (869794)
01-05-2020 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 4098 by PaulK
01-05-2020 4:26 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
If "Iran" is so vague, isn't it a bit odd that all the answers I got were Dem/liberal opinions about the current situation I was searching about? Just not the conservative views I was looking for.
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Message 4104 of 5796 (869801)
01-05-2020 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 4103 by PaulK
01-05-2020 4:42 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: IGNORANT FAKE NEWS
Right, it's all worked out so that if you want a conservative opinion and MAYBE if you use some carefully chocen wording that does NOT include "cobnservative" MAYBE you'll get something somewhere near what you are looking for.
No change you'll ever admit to the truth is there?

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Message 4106 of 5796 (869803)
01-05-2020 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 4104 by Faith
01-05-2020 4:47 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE: Percy's take on the assassination
Percy in Message 3725 on the Trump Bashing Thread, says:'
Why did Trump order the assassination of Soleimani now? Just watch today's Sunday political programs (Meet the Press, Face the Nation, etc.) and the answer is obvious. Instead of talking about impeachment they're talking about Iran. Trump did what he always does when his misdeeds draw too much attention: he causes a distraction to benefit himself and hang the consequences that the country and world must suffer.
Could be some of that going on, wise move I'd say, overshadowing the sham impeachment for a while, but more likely it was just the best time to do it. It should have been done years ago.
Meet the Press? Face the Nation? You don't know those are liberal mouthpieces?
The US and the world are not a safer place after Soleimani's assassination. Americans are being warned to leave Iraq and the surrounding region. More troops are being sent to the Middle East. Homeland Security has been placed on higher alert. Our cyber targets are being warned to expect increased attacks. Security is being stepped up at our embassies around the world, as well as for our senior military officials. Our navy is stepping up its alertness in the Persian Gulf. Great Britain has just dispatched two destroyers to the region to protect British shipping.
There's something wrong with protecting our interests against a mad regime that wants to kill Americans?
Soleimani was responsible for many deaths, including Americans.
Thousands.
He required our careful and continuous attention.
He required being taken out. preferably a long time ago. You don't let terrorists go on killing people with impunity. Unless you're Obama or some other leftists.
But Trump's assassination of Soleimani will cause a greater number of American deaths and place an increased number of American lives at risk.
Wait and see. Most of it is the usual hot air. Retaliation would cost them dearly. Maybe they are that stupid, but wait and see.
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Message 4108 of 5796 (869805)
01-05-2020 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 4107 by jar
01-05-2020 5:11 PM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
WONDERFUL piece of personal attack without a shred of substance. There should be a special thread set up for honoring such posts.

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Message 4112 of 5796 (869819)
01-05-2020 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 4111 by RAZD
01-05-2020 10:32 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
Fascism suits today's Left very nicely. In today's world it isn't on the right, it's on the left.
Nazism is a form of fascism and showed that ideology's disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system, but also incorporated fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and eugenics into its creed.
Most of that describes today's Left, even the Dem party, quite well. Disdain for liberal democracy yes indeed, oh definitely yes indeed, "the parliamentary system" too, yes. The House Democrats have been making a complete mockery of American institutions including the Constitution, utterly destroyed the concept of impeachment, conducted a sham investigation for three years and then another to try to drum up something to impeach Trump for. It's all political, power is the motive, not truth, not anything fundamentally American. It's so transparent it's hard to see how you all fell for it.
You've also got antisemitism on your side, in the Muslim members of the House nobody will condemn. But also the rampant attacks on Jews going on in New York nobody will touch either because they are done by militant blacks. Oh dear we can't punish blacks, oh dear no, cuz Political Correctness tells us that can't be true. So it's denied.
Since the fascist Left IS Communist at its root I guess "fervent anti-communism" isn't relevant, but eugenics was the reason for Planned Parenthood so even if that is denied these days it belongs at the door of the Left.
Fascism is a form of totalitarianism, tyranny, denial of civil rights to opponents etc. That is today's Left.
Wake up RAZD. Your definitional approach to this is self-deception.
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Faith 
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Message 4114 of 5796 (869825)
01-06-2020 5:58 AM
Reply to: Message 4113 by PaulK
01-06-2020 1:19 AM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
Marc and I don't agree on everything and I don't even know what you are referring to.
I was answering the accusation that eugenics was right wing. No it fuelded Planned Parenthood and that is left wing.
There is nothing fascistic or totalitarian about nationalism, it's the natural attitude of human beings.
I very clearly specified how today's fascism is leftist. It's leftist.
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Faith 
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Message 4116 of 5796 (869827)
01-06-2020 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 4115 by vimesey
01-06-2020 6:46 AM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
I'm trying to use the term the way Reagan used it. I could not care less what the formal definitions of past forms of fascism are. Liberal Fascism is what we have today. It's a totalitarianism, its motivation is power, it could not care less about humanistic forms of government, all it wants is power. Its content is Marxist/Communism. Political Correctness is its diaboligical invention for the purpose of controlling people and shutting up opposition. They could not care less about the racism or the feminism or the homophobia or the xenophobia content of PC, the whole point is just a means of controlling people.
The House Democrats are acting like fascists. At least one conservative talk show host calls Pelosi a fascist. They have reinvented impeachment to suit themselves, denying the Constitutional directives for it. They don't like Trump and although he has done nothing whqatever to deserve impeachment they are going to make sure he gets impeached anyway. It is fundamentally lawlessness, making up laws as they go for the purpose of doing away with their opposition. It's not nationalistic, it's globalistic and seeks domination of all nations from that standpoint. \
Now if you don't want to call these things fascism, that's really irrelevant because it's the content that matters. So call it totalitarianism then. It's Machiavelllian, it's power politics, it's anti-American, it's about government imposing its will on the people, the opposite of representing the will of the people. It opposes the freedoms granted by the American Constitution and by the laws of European countries too. It's tyranny. These things are what I'm calling Liberal Fascism. I think the name contains enough of the essential elements to be worth keeping.
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Message 4132 of 5796 (869859)
01-06-2020 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 4125 by Percy
01-06-2020 1:43 PM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
I'm simply trying to define the way Liberal Fascism is seen by us conservatives. Yes the words are being used for that purpose, and to distinguish it from the fascism others would prefer to impose on it, which of course is just a way to eliminate the whole concept. So I'm trying to define it as we understand it. I don't expect liberals to get it, because they spend all their time disqualifying anything the right has to say about anything, but the definition could help if any were willing to pay attention. Just a bit of attention.
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Message 4134 of 5796 (869862)
01-06-2020 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 4133 by nwr
01-06-2020 11:48 PM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
Unbelievers should not give opinions about the Bible. No, Jesus was not anticapitalist. He told ONE man who needed to hear it because of his idolatrous attachment to his wealth, to sell it all and come follow Him. The man was proud of his obedience to the Law so Jesus showed him the one area in which he lacked the perfection he seemed to be claiming he had. He does NOT tell us all to live that way. We don't all have that particular sin/idolatry to deal with.
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Message 4135 of 5796 (869863)
01-07-2020 12:02 AM
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01-06-2020 11:48 PM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
Oh and let me also point out that the Dem candidates are not proposing to give up their own wealth, they are promising to steal it from others who for the most part earned it rightfully. That is even farther from anything Jesus taught. Jesus taught individuals how to deal with their own sins, He did not offer a government program.

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Message 4137 of 5796 (869865)
01-07-2020 12:06 AM
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01-07-2020 12:03 AM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
Wow, are you actually admitting all that is really religion?

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Message 4140 of 5796 (869869)
01-07-2020 12:20 AM
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01-07-2020 12:17 AM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
What you say about me is true of the Left of course, that's always the case. Conservatism is fundamentally for American freedoms, the Left is for forcing things on the people, stealing their money, making them use only the words they deem proper, and so on.
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Message 4142 of 5796 (869873)
01-07-2020 1:20 AM
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01-07-2020 12:44 AM


Re: LIBERAL FASCISM IS HERE
Trump has been acting within the powers given to the Executive, and trying to hold on to them while the Left has been encroaching on them. He's not expanding them, they are shrinking them.
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Message 4184 of 5796 (870031)
01-11-2020 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 4183 by xongsmith
01-11-2020 1:34 AM


Re: LIBERAL is not a derogatory term, no matter how hard you try ...
Ya know what, conservatives, perhaps Republicans, are still more liberal than today's Democrats. All the Democrats spend their time doing is criticizing the opposition, pointing the finger, finding fault, giving no benefit of the doubt or having any other civilized notion. Inventing reasons to put restrictions on people, create an oppressive tyranny in which they tell the rest of us what to do. Death to our American freedoms. Nothing "liberal" about that whatever. If the word means anything it means freedom from exactly the kind of tyrannical conformism today's left wants to impose on us all, from social norms to economic opportunities.
Trump has brought jobs to the minorities, all the Democrats do is complain and call the opposition names. Trump has been acting within his constitutional authority at every turn, but the Democrats are either so malicious or so ignorant they accuse him of violating it. Probably both malicious and ignorant. This is not a "liberal" party by any sense of the term.
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