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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
No, he cannot be running up trillion dollar deficits. As Vimesey said there is a confusing between deficits and the National Debt and nothing Trump is doing could create such high deficits.
He's running trillion dollar deficits mostly due to his tax cut and the loss of revenue that caused. Trickle- economics never works Trump’s Wasteful Tax Cuts Lead To Continued Trillion Dollar Deficits In Expanding Economy
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I see this already has three replies, but it is so wrong it deserves another:
Faith writes: Gosh it isn't all that hard to understand what hearsay is. It's giving testimony of what another person said and in this case not even the defendant himself. No, this is incorrect. Testifying to what you heard someone else say is eyewitness testimony. How could it possibly be anything else. You witnessed them saying it. Testifying to what you witnessed is the essence of eyewitness testimony. I think where you're getting confused concerns whether some eyewitness testimony is direct evidence or not. If John told Mary, "I killed JR," and Mary testified, "John told me that he killed JR," that is eyewitness testimony, not hearsay. But it is not direct evidence the John killed JR. Even if John himself testified, "I killed JR," that would not be conclusive evidence. John may be confessing to protect his wife Sally, who actually killed JR. That being said, juries do tend to give confessions a lot of weight, even in the absence of eyewitness or forensic evidence. That's why forced confessions (the jury must of course be persuaded they were not coerced) have placed so many innocent men behind bars, in some cases in the face of indisputable evidence that they were miles away at the time. Summarizing, if you testify to what you saw or heard, that's firsthand knowledge and not hearsay. It's only hearsay when you testify to things you only know secondhand. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Obama inherited a staggering economy from Bush and built it back to health.
Trump has managed to continue that success.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Since there are so many entitlement payments that are prohibited by law from being cut how is the National Debt ever going to be paid down?
By taxing the rich and corporations to pay their fair share. You can help. Don't cash your Social Security check. Don't let your doct charge Medicare, buy a full-coverage private policy. That's what the Republicans want for everybody.
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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: Why are you continuing to argue this obvious point. We never heard from the eyewitness, that would not have been hearsay, but we've heard a lot from people who tell us what the eyewitness said. That's hearsay. Had it happened the way you just described then sure, it would have been hearsay. But none of the testimony before the House Intelligence Committee describes what Trump or Mulvaney or Pompeo or Perry or Giuliani said or did, unless they actually witnessed it. For example, David Holmes testified to what he overheard Trump saying to Sondland on Sondland's phone. That's an eyewitness account. Had David Holmes instead testified that Trump directed Sondland to convince the Ukrainians to begin an investigation into the Bidens that would have been hearsay or speculation. But he didn't do that. As an aside, I don't know why Trump tried to cast doubt on being able to overhear cellphone conversations. I encounter people with their cell phones turned up too loud all the time. It's especially annoying in restaurants.
Yelling at me isn't going to change this simple fact. Keep this in mind the next time you're tempted to hit that caps lock key. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Since there are so many entitlement payments that are prohibited by law from being cut how is the National Debt ever going to be paid down? Yet again you are simply repeating falsehoods. List the entitlements and how they are funded and what part they play in the National Debt. Sorry Faith but you really need to learn the basics.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
There is reason to doubt the so-called investigation of Burisma. Wait and see.
I guess you really meant "there's no reason to doubt the investigation of Burisma, but I hope some doubt emerges someday".
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
that link I posted listed Social Security and Medicare and I think one other.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well they keep wanting to investigate the Biden thing so clearly it's not all that well established.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: that link I posted listed Social Security and Medicare and I think one other. And how are those two financed? How can they possibly contribute to either the deficit or debt? Basics Faith, learn the basics which have been pointed out to you MANY times in the past. Stop believing the liars that are the current crop of Conservative conmen. Edited by jar, : theY
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Since there are so many entitlement payments that are prohibited by law from being cut how is the National Debt ever going to be paid down? By taxing the rich and corporations to pay their fair share. Which means the rich will either be moving out of the country to avoid taxes, or at least not be expanding their businesses and creating more jobs, which means more money will be paid out in those entitlement programs, which means there won't be any money for paying down the debt.
You can help. Don't cash your Social Security check. Don't let your doct charge Medicare, buy a full-coverage private policy. I truly wish I could but I am one of the people who need the help unfortunately and due to physical disability couldn't work even if there were jobs I could do. I have an income of $420 from SS, plus rent relief, and that's all. I daydream about ways to make money, writing a book is one but of course it might not sell. I am truly grateful for the help I get, I'm not against entitlements, only it's clear there are a lot of people who could be working instead and that's way better for the economy. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They are paid for out of tax money, where else would it come from? Look at the link.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Yeah, Republicans keep wanting to investigate the Bidens. That doesn't tell us why. The fact that there isn't an iota of evidence of any wrongdoing does tell us why. It's a smokescreen to distract from the administration's criminality.
https://www.frontpagelive.com/...oe-biden-and-his-son-hunter
quote:Hunter got the job because of his name. Just like Jared, Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr.quote: Similarly, when Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster there was no investigation into Burisma or Hunter.
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JonF Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
To what tax are you referring?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Millions on food stamps and unemployment that are now off those under Trump. Because he cut funding on food stamps, artificially lowering the number because fewer qualified. Unemployment down but how many people with multiple jobs getting counted twice for being employed, and how many jobs pay a living wage or better. If more people working multiple jobs to survive is unemployment the issue or underemployment? unemployment is the most manipulated figure and fails to measure the value of jobs. If unemployment is down AND the average value of jobs is down, the economy is not improving, it just means more people working starvation wages. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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