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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Welp. This thread is dead.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
The reason Trump is popular is that he speaks boldly to issues that matter to his followers. Of course everyone here can't resist telling us why they shouldn't matter, with all the usual Marxist PC slander, but the reason why he is popular is still the reason why he is popular and that hasn't changed no matter what perfidy the left tars him with. While of course ignoring the outright criminality and evil doings of their own candidates. I'm nowhere near a "Marxist" and I don't like Trump either. And something you seem to be forgetting... The overwhelming majority of the Republican base can't stand this guy either. Perhaps he is gaining traction on the ground, but the Republican party itself has no faith in this guy. So are Cruz or Rubio supporters being "Marxists" for disliking him on the same grounds that people have shared at EvC? In the same breath that you say anyone criticizing Trump must be a PC Marxist, you likewise slander them as PC Marxists. Imagine that?!?!"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Faith, in a perfect world who would you vote for? Bear in mind that no one is ahead in the polls and no one has dropped out of the race and that none of them at this point are deemed unelectable. Which candidate would you support? Huckabee?
"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
BTW, has anyone pointed out yet that Trump's story about Pershing is completely made up? Some of it is true (dipping rounds in pig's blood to metaphorically send them to hell), but lining people up for execution and LOL! allowing the 50th to live is something Trump watched in Inglorious Basterds. Never fucking happened. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Oh, I don't know. Maybe The Trump is the least crazy of them all. Cruz is a science-denier. He thinks that the world is 6 000 years old and that YEC should be taught in schools as science. Crazy as can be. Rubio is also a Tea-Bagger. So, as crazy as it seems, maybe The Don is the least crazy out of the three of them. In the end, anyone from the Dems will beat them sometime in November. Even Hillary can do it. Cruz and Kaisich seem the sanest out of the bunch... which is a truly remarkable statement to make and makes for a very sad state of affairs. I'm still hoping against hope that the Libertarian candidate will be halfway decent Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Actually, Trump and Kaisich seem to be the sanest of the bunch. Cruz is crazy as can be. It really is a sad state of affairs. I'm sorry, I misspoke. I meant to say Rubio, not Cruz. Cruz is batshit. And believe me, that's definitely not an endorsement for Rubio!"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Don't get your hopes up. I've been hearing persistent rumors that he'll most likely be a libertarian. Who is "he?""Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Trump has been married too many times but I'm not aware that he's cheated on his wife as Clinton did, but then I don't claim to be up on it all, so please show me how this cartoon is justified. Because of the lifestyle he advocates, including ogling over his own daughter. That evangelicals are supporting him, of all the candidates, is absurd to the point where it is almost impossible to believe. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Well, Cruz beat Trump by about half, but that's not really a surprising result given that Cruz is a Texan. Hillary beat the brakes off Sanders.
Overall, it looks more and more likely that my nightmare scenario will come true. And choosing between Trump and Clinton is a little bit like choosing between Gonorrhea and Syphilis. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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I think your scenario is likely to play out. It really saddens me that so many self proclaimed christians support Trump---whether openkly or closeted. It just goes to prove that in reality, many US Christians worship Patriotism(nationalism) and Money. You got that right. Patriotism and Christianity have merged in to this hideous chimera. There's barely a semblance remaining of the original Christian message. The other thing it highlights is how the collective will ultimately disavow their conscience so long as it appears that this candidate can beat an even more despised candidate (the lesser of two evils) "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Perhaps it is a matter of opinion, but I found the comparisons made by Percy and the ones he referenced to be superficial and weak. Trump is clearly a demagogue, but not all of those types deserve to be compared to Hitler. And of course the comparison brought out the expected response, full of even sillier rhetoric. Yeah, there are some times where the comparison is valid and in fact a useful warning; it is important that history happens never again. But pretty close to 100% of the time, comparisons to Hitler are over the top; this time was no exception. Your own mileage may vary. ABE: I did not invoke Godwin's law. I know full well what Godwin's law is. I don't know. Most of the time when someone creates parallels between Hitler and someone else, usually it is supposed to be tinged with some humor and sarcasm. Most people know that making comparisons to Hitler is obviously hyperbole because there's just so few damn people that could actually be likened to someone who ordered the murder of 6 million people! With that said, Trump is very clearly an authoritarian and has many of the elements of a dictator. But he's no Hitler... Yet. *gulp*"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
It's that YET that concerns me. He shows all the signs of being capable of being a Hitler if he gets the power. With how much he craves and covets power, to have that much power seems like a recipe for disaster. He seems like the kind of guy that would vindictively attack nations for daring to challenge him."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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When I see Ted Cruz's rat face
Maybe there's something to Heidi's prophecy "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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But the nation itself could be put in a dangerous situation, and that's Trump's concern. There seems to me to be a battle of extremes. Europe has a very serious problem with radicalized Muslims and they are letting everyone in carte blanche. The problem with Trump is he is the extreme to the opposite end of the spectrum who wants to bar everyone that is associated with Islam in any way only on the basis of their faith. As you alluded to, Syria has a sizeable Christian population -- in fact, the Syrians are one of the most ancient Christian sects in existence. Under Trump's plan, it simply bans everyone on the basis that people coming from Syria are more than likely Muslim and so he doesn't want anything to come through. There needs to be a reasonable policy in place that is somewhere in between both extremes -- one that is humanitarian in nature, but also weeds out extremists. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Europe does have a very serious problem which they refuse to acknowledge because of political correctness. Yes, I agree.
I guess you could say there are two extremes but the thing is there's only Trump representing the other extreme. Who else? Trump wants us to find out which of the refugees present a threat and which don't. Which is common sense. In reference to Syrian refugees, yes, it is common sense to ensure they aren't affiliated with terror organizations. The issue with Trump is that he was specific to "banning Muslims" from "Muslim countries." Well, my girlfriend is a Turkish citizen. Turkey is recognized as a Muslim country (even though they have a strong tradition of secularism and probably 2/3 of the population self-identify as secular, including herself). So was Trump referencing Syrians refugees specifically or was he referencing Muslims?
We could start by admitting all the Christians looking for asylum, there is no reason to exclude them, they aren't going to turn into jihadists. Identifying as a Christian doesn't mean you don't have any proclivities to violence. Why are we showing preferential treatment at all? We should be looking at all of them equally.
We do need a plan, however, and I do think Christians should be getting involved to the max as I suggested. A lot have but I agree that more should be done. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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