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Phat
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Message 606 of 5796 (847598)
01-24-2019 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 602 by Theodoric
01-23-2019 11:55 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
Maybe i dont understand whats going on then. Can you give me your perspective? One of my close friends happens to be a Catholic cub scout leader and has sons close to the age of those students and he sides against the activists. It apparantly looks that way to me as well. The Israeli group clearly started in with the whole white privilege thing. Granted the teen boys behaved as teens can do but were not the instigators. Please tell me your perspective. You know im not pro Trump but I also am not anti white as it is counter productive. This whole privilege thing causes more harm than good. Please rxplain tp me why my opinion is uninformed or wrong.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 607 of 5796 (847599)
01-24-2019 4:30 AM
Reply to: Message 605 by Faith
01-24-2019 3:38 AM


Throwing gasoline on a fire
Usually i dont agree with you when you rant about a vile leftist media but after reading many news and opinion pieces on this incident i can see the tensiom and in my opinion unjustified backlash against any attempt at a fair and balanced report of what actually went on. Why is it that fringe minority groups are always favored as the good guys even when the videos clearly saw them instigate confrontation. Granted Trump is a nationalist and in my opinion not too bright but I side with you in this one. Two wrongs dont make a right. Maybe my people have been knowing jerks and oppressors in past history but trying to make an issue that we are privileged or always wrong will only cause more conflicts. We need to focus on equal treatment of all classes of people rather than vilify any one group....and i mean ANY.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 609 of 5796 (847601)
01-24-2019 5:21 AM
Reply to: Message 608 by Faith
01-24-2019 4:56 AM


Re: Dangerous jumping to conclusions
I've been thinking about the conscious and unconscious symbolism behind this event. I will elaborate later when i get home and on my computer. I cant type quickly on my android.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 616 of 5796 (847621)
01-24-2019 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 615 by Theodoric
01-24-2019 11:22 AM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
The things about racists is that very few of the have them balls to stand up for their actual beliefs. The hem and haw and try to justify why they are not racists. This is because they know they only have one reason for being a racist. Hate of people that are different and they don't want to admit it. Give me a good old time racist that admits they hate people different than they are. At least you know where they stand...
I hope im not racist but i likely have unconscious hangups. Consciously i still resist the whole white privilege accusation. There is no reason that i should be vilified because of the behavior of my ancestors...although some racism does exist in our society and much of comes from populists.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 618 of 5796 (847625)
01-24-2019 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 617 by Theodoric
01-24-2019 12:31 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
All they want is an acknowdgement that due to the horrible things your and my ancestors did in the past certain groups have an inherent privilege.
I can acknowledge it but dont want to have to pay reparations of any sort nor be penalized for it. It would be like getting arrested for a crime your father did.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 620 of 5796 (847628)
01-24-2019 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 619 by Tanypteryx
01-24-2019 1:04 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
No i understand what you mean. Im all for equal treatment of everyone.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 662 of 5796 (847715)
01-25-2019 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 660 by Faith
01-25-2019 5:04 PM


Re: I don't suppose anyone would like to think sanely about this?
I suppose we can check a wide variety of sources to see if there is any consensus. Tell me, does this website know anything? Or are they biased one way or the other also?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 794 of 5796 (848032)
01-30-2019 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 788 by Faith
01-30-2019 5:32 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
How do you explain this situation of people having to have more than one job in order to survive? That was not the case until fairly recently. My father supported a family of six on his own income and he didn't make a lot of money. That situation pretty much persisted through the years I was married and raising my daughter too. When did that change and why?
What type of work did he do? My Dad was a general contractor...he built houses. Usually around 2 a year or so. His income back in the early seventies was only around $14,000.00 a year, but it was enough to support me and my sister, sending her to college and me to a private school. These days, it is different, however. Unless one makes around $60,000 a year one cannot successfully support a family the way my father did. Everyone will eat and get by, but life is tough. The cost of living has increased quicker than wages.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 1064 of 5796 (850027)
03-28-2019 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1062 by Faith
03-28-2019 2:24 PM


Re: Answer to Diomedes on the Trump Bashing Thread.
Faith writes:
This investigation has been the lowest level American politics has ever sunk to, nothing short of an attempt on the Constitution itself, all because the Democrats lost the election to Trump and can't get over it. And most likely all in the service of covering up the foul deeds of his opposition in the first place. Dear God please let all of this come out and save our Republic.
I would love to discuss life 101 with you at our own private topic. I will try and respect you. I can be a loose Canon sometimes. Random Discussion: Faith & Phat ONLY
All I know about Mueller is that he was respected by both sides. And he did a thorough job. If he couldn't find anything substantial about President Trump than Congress won't find anything. Trump is not perfect, but then again none of us are. Let he who is without sin start throwing rocks.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 1114 of 5796 (850193)
04-03-2019 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1113 by Faith
04-02-2019 8:39 PM


Communication Is A Lost Art
Have you posted at our Great Debate Thread yet? Or do you fear that I will attack you...for that is not my intention. We may disagree on some things, but I am sure that we will agree on many others.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 1126 of 5796 (850283)
04-05-2019 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1125 by Faith
04-05-2019 10:11 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Correction. Your opinion has been summarized, supported by those posts.
But I don't want to fight. We are here to discuss the reality of the times we live in.
Come to Our Great Debate(Discussion) Thread and talk withg me. We both love to talk, and if we can voice our opinion, people at EvC can respond to us at Peanut Gallery Comments on Great Debate
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Phat
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Message 1128 of 5796 (850285)
04-05-2019 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1127 by JonF
04-05-2019 11:10 AM


The Last Days Of Life As We Know It
The jury will be out long after the cows come home as to what constitutes fake news vs "real" news. Of course, we ALL know the answer. But allow me to be honest with all of you in this thread.
About a year ago, I purchased a smart speaker from Amazon. It took me a while to understand home wifi and how to hook it up, but within a month I learned how to use it. Faith knows the stories I used to read many years ago about the antichrist, the last days, plagues, and specifically this scripture
quote:
Matt 12:36-37
36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words, you will be condemned."
NKJV
Words are very powerful.
So getting back to my story.
We (my friends and I) soon found out that Alexa records everything that you say to it. Amazons disclaimer is that this feature is only used so that Alexa(Amazon Echo) can gather information and become "smarter". The smart speakers are essentially in the cloud. So lets ask ourselves just what the Cloud is?
  • How accurate is the information in this cloud?
  • Who monitors the clouds information?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    Phat
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    Message 1130 of 5796 (850287)
    04-05-2019 12:30 PM
    Reply to: Message 1129 by ringo
    04-05-2019 11:51 AM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    How about you and I starting our own Great Debate?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    Phat
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    Message 1133 of 5796 (850292)
    04-05-2019 1:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 1131 by ringo
    04-05-2019 12:35 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Because personally, I feel that our conversations are entertaining. If such a conversation was uninterrupted, it would provide infotainment to our brethren and sistren.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    Phat
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    Joined: 12-30-2003
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    Message 1137 of 5796 (850299)
    04-05-2019 2:13 PM
    Reply to: Message 1136 by ringo
    04-05-2019 1:29 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    We're Abbott and Costello doing Who's on First for the umpteenth time.
    Im just saying we would derail any topic we were in.
    Better to be Right than Wrong.
    Better to be Righteous than LEFT Behind.
    See how Faith thinks?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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