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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah well I do consider it a different thing to attack an individual versus an institution. Or an ideology, especially where some of its written rules are clearly stated including that lying is fine when it serves the ideology.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Hm, and I just remembered a case where a woman in her thirties quit her job to get pregnant because her "clock was running out" and she got welfare and food stamps to help her through it.
But no source to show validity, correct? In order to collect food stamps in most states you have to work 20 hours a week. What do you mean by welfare? Welfare does not exist in the US anymore. A single person that is capable of working does not qualify for much public assistance. I am going to call bullshit on this unless you can provide actual evidence other than "I just remembered"Do you read the article? Did you see the movie? Do you have any idea how much it costs to have a baby in this country? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Or an ideology, especially where some of its written rules are clearly stated including that lying is fine when it serves the ideology.
Care to explain what that sentence means?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's not a fact. Read your Bible. Not a word is said in that whole description about the fact that it is a human being that is going to be killed, not a word.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't think you have any idea about the various welfare programs that are available to a great number of people. Go to the welfare website for your area and see what you find out.
In any case I'm going to call someone tonight who knows more about this incident I mentioned to see if I got it right. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Anybody can see that it's a baby as early as twelve weeks.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Faith writes: Yeah well I do consider it a different thing to attack an individual versus an institution. Or an ideology, especially where some of its written rules are clearly stated including that lying is fine when it serves the ideology. You just declared that Planned Parenthood are lying with no evidence to back it. You then proceed to smear their reputation with no evidence and no reasoning. You are doing the very same thing that you accuse others of.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Moses didn't. (Exodus 21:22-25) Anybody can see that it's a baby as early as twelve weeks.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The movie "Unplanned" is my evidence that they lie. Take it or leave it.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It is your opinion that a human being is "being killed".
The majority of voters and the US legal system do not agree. Things may change, but them's the facts today.
I'll have to make some phone calls later to see if I've got this right.
You should have made those calls before posting.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Moses didn't have ultrasound or modern medicine. I'm not looking up the reference, you should have quoted it. Since you didn't I assume it's where the loss of a fetus is valued as less than the death of an adult person, which doesn't change the fact that the fetus is a human being in the making.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It's a fetus, not a baby. In law and in the opinion of most US voters.
You disagree, but that doesn't make your claim true.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
OK, we'll leave it. No evidence presented. As usual.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The people who do not regard it as a human being have not seen the evidence. When I saw it years ago it broke my heart because I'd been denying it too. It's in the movie "Unplanned" for one place. Some will no doubt continue to deny it even in the teeth of the evidence but there are many who will see the truth.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Thanks for acknowledging that a fetus is not a human being.
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