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Theodoric
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Message 1411 of 5796 (851457)
04-24-2019 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1400 by Faith
04-24-2019 12:40 PM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
Honosexuality is sin
If you think so, then don't be a homosexual. Manypeople do not think it is a sin. There are many of us that don't even think there is such a thing as a sin. Why should we have to live by what your beliefs are? We do not try to make you live by our beliefs.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Theodoric
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Message 1412 of 5796 (851458)
04-24-2019 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1404 by Faith
04-24-2019 12:48 PM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
Call them see if they will give "welfare" to a person that fits the scenario you presented.
Welfare, even though they still call it that in Nevada, has been replaced with TANF. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
quote:
The purpose of the TANF program is to provide temporary assistance for the care of dependent children in their own homes or the homes of relatives by furnishing financial assistance, and self-sufficiency services.
TANF FAQ
quote:
Adults receiving TANF benefits must undergo a skills assessment to help determine job skills and work experience. The assessment is also used to decide whether members of the family will need non-cash benefits such as job training, mental health services, substance abuse treatment, child care or domestic violence intercession. A personal responsibility plan is developed to help the family become self-sufficient. Adults that do not have infants must meet TANF work requirements. Participants must be employed, search for work, volunteer in the community or attend skills training or other educational activities in order to keep TANF benefits. Failure to comply with the work requirements will result in the termination of their TANF allotment.
https://www.sapling.com/...ility-requirements-welfare-Nevada
You mystery pregnant woman would not qualify for "welfare" and neither would the woman in Little Woods.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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DrJones*
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Message 1413 of 5796 (851460)
04-24-2019 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1389 by Faith
04-24-2019 12:28 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
and we all live in a virtual reality simulation created by robots that use our bodies as batteries. i saw it in a movie, it must be true.

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Taq
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Message 1414 of 5796 (851461)
04-24-2019 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1410 by Faith
04-24-2019 1:03 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Faith writes:
Ha ha. Nave you are.
Dogmatic, you are. You seemed to be the very type of person that you claim to be battling against. You smear the name of anyone who disagrees with you, you ignore any evidence that contradicts your views, and you cling to an ideology dogmatically.

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Faith 
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Message 1415 of 5796 (851468)
04-25-2019 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1407 by Taq
04-24-2019 1:00 PM


It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
What evidence in the movie counters the words on PP own website guiding women to resources that counsel women on many other options, such as adoption?
My guess would be that the list of services was put together years after Abby Johnson wrote her book. I think she left Planned Parenthood around 2009. No way to know when the list was written then, is there? But she was a director of a clinic and I'm sorry, I don't accept the smear job being done to her here, so what she wrote I take as a true account of what she experienced and if she wrote about those services then I'll accept that. But the movie, the trailer anyway, suggests that abortion is THE thing that PP does.
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JonF
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Message 1416 of 5796 (851469)
04-25-2019 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1415 by Faith
04-25-2019 10:51 AM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
Your guess is, as usual, bullshit. PP has been doing about the same stuff for decades. And of course data from 2009 is available. Do you ever think at all?
From the strongly anti-abortion site TooManyAborted, we get the 2009 PP annual report http://www.toomanyaborted.com/.../PDFs/PP_AR_011011_vF-1.pdf.
Anyone who says or implies abortion is the thing PP does is lying.
Posting facts about Johnson is ntot a smear job. Posting your crap about PP is.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 1417 of 5796 (851470)
04-25-2019 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1380 by Faith
04-24-2019 11:51 AM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
Hm, and I just remembered a case where a woman in her thirties quit her job to get pregnant because her "clock was running out" and she got welfare and food stamps to help her through it. I'll have to make some phone calls later to see if I've got this right.
So did you make the calls and were told your claim is hogwash, or did you realize your claim is malarkey, not make the calls, and hope you'd get away with it?

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PaulK
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Message 1418 of 5796 (851471)
04-25-2019 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1416 by JonF
04-25-2019 1:31 PM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
Faith is demonstrating exactly WHY Johnson can get away with false information that can easily be checked Message 1323
Not only will Faith believe it without doing any checks, if anyone else does do the checks and exposes the falsehoods she’ll go off on a rant about “smears”.

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Faith 
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Message 1419 of 5796 (851472)
04-25-2019 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1418 by PaulK
04-25-2019 1:49 PM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
I trust what Abby Johnson said about her own experience and my impression is that her experience was that Planned Parenthood is predominantly an abortion mill irrespective of whatever they say about their services. They can say all kinds of things but the proof is in what is actually done at their clinics and my impression is that abortion is the main thing they do. As I said, if I get contrary information from a source I trust I will change my mind.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 1420 of 5796 (851473)
04-25-2019 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1418 by PaulK
04-25-2019 1:49 PM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
And propaganda.

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dwise1
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Message 1421 of 5796 (851474)
04-25-2019 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1418 by PaulK
04-25-2019 1:49 PM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
... , if anyone else does do the checks and exposes the falsehoods she’ll go off on a rant about “smears”.
Including when it's by an anti-abortion source as provided in Message 1416.
Oh the irony!

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JonF
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Message 1422 of 5796 (851475)
04-25-2019 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1419 by Faith
04-25-2019 1:58 PM


Re: It's PP against Abby Johnson and I trust her
The only sources you trust are nutjobs that agree with your loathsome preconceptions.
Abortion is consistently about 3% of the number of services PP performs. There's plenty of evidence for that. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
PP performs many critical services for the poor. But who cares about them, just let them die without PP. Right?

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Faith 
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Message 1423 of 5796 (851476)
04-25-2019 2:03 PM


The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Joe Biden just came out declaring himself for the Presidency and as a reason for it gave the fake news story about Charlottesville, about how Trump supposedly called white supremacists and neo Nazis "fine people." He did not and this needs to be answered again. The Left is unbelievably evil. They know the truth but repeat the lie anyway. Here's what Trump actually said:

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PaulK
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Message 1424 of 5796 (851477)
04-25-2019 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1423 by Faith
04-25-2019 2:03 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Did you actually listen to that ? Thanks for providing evidence that Trump takes the side of white supremacists.

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JonF
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Message 1425 of 5796 (851478)
04-25-2019 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1423 by Faith
04-25-2019 2:03 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
One side were Nazis.
The other side wasn't.

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