I Know That God Does Not Exist

A snippet is just a small part of a work. Comte was not the only source cited. There *is* the rest of the work which is the bulk of the evidence.You ignored it all. You didn’t even look at it did you? No, don’t answer. It’s not very flattering to your demonic protestant religion and you’ll have to deny it all anyway.Faith and facts just do not play well together.So here we have it. Both Protestants and Popes burned, hanged and tortured plenty of heretics, witches and homos well into the 1750s.Your protestant reformation only spread the disease into new cults.Trying to say the other guy is more evil does not absolve your church of the millions of tortures and deaths perpetrated in the name of your demented vision of a god.Your church is as evil, even more evil, as any church out there.Your religion, as all religion, is evil.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

It's your job to present the evidence, not require me to look it up.And since Comte is of course an example there's no reason to expect anything better from the rest of it. I trust my own sources, which are listed at the link I posted.
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You are consumed with hatred for religion, and that doesn't give you much credibility on this topic.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

"Supposedly"? You really aren't up on current events. Do you know who the Rohingya are?You've basically proven my point with your remarks about Hitler and Stalin. Of course Hitler was a fervent Christian (that's why he persecuted the Jews, of course). As for Stalin, I'll quote Christopher Hitchens.

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For hundreds of years, millions of Russians had been told the head of state should be a man close to God, the czar, who was head of the Russian Orthodox Church as well as absolute despot. If you’re Stalin, you shouldn’t be in the dictatorship business if you can’t exploit the pool of servility and docility that’s ready-made for you. The task of atheists is to raise people above that level of servility and credulity. No society has gone the way of gulags or concentration camps by following the path of Spinoza and Einstein and Jefferson and Thomas Paine.

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But the thing I enjoy most about your post is the implication that religion isn't good. It's bad. It's very bad, with millions slaughtered over the centuries and throughout the world. Making comparisons of body counts of the Middle East's Muslims, the Northern Irish Christians, the Sri Lankan Hindus, the Myanmar Buddhists etc. etc. etc. with Hitler and Stalin and Mao and others (throw in Genghis Khan too, if you like) just shows that all of this nuttiness, this unreason is bad bad bad!

Interesting that Christianity is decent only to the extent that it's given up the tenets of Christianity! Especially the Old Testament vengeful god stuff. For example, they've relinquished their insistence on the First Commandment when they stopped persecuting those of other religions. At least, to the extent that they've stopped, in some places, at some times.Now if only we could get the Muslims and the Hindus and the Buddhists etc etc etc to start to bin their hatreds too...

As long as you keep calling Catholicism "Christian" you have no credibility with me at all. Catholicism is paganism and the Pope is Anticrhist according to the Protestant Reformers. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini, the Rwandans, were all CATHOLICS, not Christians. However, all those regimes were considered to be secular. The IRA were Catholic and the Irish conflicts were all fomented by the Catholic Church.I don't know what religious influences there wre on Mao or Genghis Khan. Perhaps you can enlighten me. Certainly not Protestant thoughAnd Islam at the moment is the other great persecutor of everybody else. They are particularly persecuting Christians all over the world. Although it is strenuously denied they've already begun their persecutions in Europe. Their military inroads into Europe back in the 1500s were stopped but there's every reason to suppose they've resumed in our time by a different strategy.Calling all this the work of "religion" instead of the work of murderous pagan ideologies utterly misses the point in a very dangerous way.Jefferson, Adams, Paine, etc. were all philosophically Protestant, having been soaked in the Bible. The philosophical underpinnings of the American Constitution are fundamentally Biblical.

What utter ignorance. It took the Protestant Reformation to RECOVER true Christianity from the pagan Antichrist Roman Church and if that hadn't happened, HOWEVER IMPERFECT PROTESTANTISM MAY BE, there would never have been the kind of freedoms the American Constitution enshrines (which are now being perverted by the Left and may soon have disappeared altogether, but anyway).Your comments on the Old Testament are virulently ignorant. The First Commandment has never been given up and if it ever is THEN you'll see oppression unleashed of a sort you can't even dream of. You unbelievers have no clue and your lack of knowledge is going to usher in exactly what you think you are objecting to. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Read the post you're replying to.I'm not trying to prove any case. I'm trying to get you to explain yours. Show your work. Show us why the idea of God is inherently irrational. List the logical errors.

Yes, cherry-picking. You're picking one idea of a thunderbolt-throwing god from a vast array of ideas about God. You're the one who's confused. We're not talking about what I mean by a deity. We're talking about what everybody means by a deity. You shoot down one tiny idea about one tiny god and you think you've defeated every possible idea about God. That's like swatting a mosquito and claiming you've defeated the Soviet Air Force. Do you understand what an idea is? That's exactly the point. There is nothing "special" about any idea of God. There is no one idea of God that you can shoot down and call the whole idea of God irrational.If you want to show that The Idea of God is irrational, you have to account for every idea of God that there ever was.

Wow. The Pope is the Antichrist? You Protestants sure are working hard to build a peaceful, happy world, you are!

I'm glad you see how absurd that idea is but it would have to be a conspiracy. How else would thousands of people with different backgrounds all come up with exactly the same biases?

By studying the same scientific texts. What else?

How do you know the idea has no connection to reality unless you look for a connection to reality?

I can know how to bake a cake. I can demonstrate to your satisfaction and anybody else's that I know it.You can no more demonstrate that you "know" God exists than Faith can demonstrate that she "knows" He does.

Nonsense. Put up or shut up.

Scientists don't get their knowledge from studying texts. They get it from studying evidence. they write the texts. And they get Nobel prizes by overthrowing the status quo. It's just utterly absurd to suggest that they all have the same biases which prevent them from seeing your "truth".