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Oh now I get it. Of course. I wonder if the truth will ever again surface above the Leftist lies?

I don't think you do. If you look at the political parties in Hong Kong, the conservative parties tend to be pro-Beijing and the pro-democracy parties tend to be liberal.Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

Maybe because of the liberal healthcare and education benefits provided by their society.

The Department of Homeland Security Inspector General agrees.A few kids were kept in cages for a short time under Obama. Not at all comparable.The major issue is that the administration decided to incarcerate everyone and separate families without thinking of what that required. This administration has done that sort of thing many times. They should have lined up the money sooner.The canard that "Many kids are brought here by people who are not their family" has been investigated. It's bullshit.

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In a congressional hearing on Tuesday, Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Kevin McAleenan repeatedly raised the specter of fraudulent Central American families crossing the border. McAleenan said Customs and Border Protection is seeing enormous numbers of fraudulent cases4,800 so far this fiscal year. That number is well under 1 percent of the more than 600,000 people encountered by immigration officials at the US border this yearand even that figure may overstate the issue. As Mother Jones has reported, only parents or legal guardians and their children count as families under Department of Homeland Security standards. So migrants traveling with siblings, in-laws, and grandchildren under 18 may have been included in the fraud statistics.

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Can you post the link to that quote? I would like to use it. It is a strong argument as to how much this admin is concealing the truth.

I realize that you hate the very concept of truth, but here's excerpts directly from the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General. This is the real thing. Management Alert — DHS Needs to Address Dangerous Overcrowding and Prolonged Detention of Children and Adults in the Rio Grande Valley (Redacted)

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In May 2019, we issued a management alert about dangerous overcrowding observed in the El Paso area during our unannounced inspections of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) holding facilities.1 During the week of June 10, 2019, we traveled to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas and again observed serious overcrowding and prolonged detention in Border Patrol facilities requiring immediate attention. ...

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During our visits to five Border Patrol facilities and two ports of entry in the Rio Grande Valley,2 we reviewed compliance with CBP’s Transport, Escort, Detention and Search (TEDS) standards, which govern CBP’s interaction with detained individuals,3 and observed serious overcrowding and prolonged detention of unaccompanied alien children (UACs),4 families, and single adults that require immediate attention. Specifically, Border Patrol was holding about 8,000 detainees in custody at the time of our visit, with 3,400 held longer than the 72 hours generally permitted under the TEDS standards.5 Of those 3,400 detainees, Border Patrol held 1,500 for more than 10 days. ...

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In addition to holding roughly 30 percent of minor detainees for longer than 72 hours, several Rio Grande Valley facilities struggled to meet other TEDS standards for UACs and families. For example, children at three of the five Border Patrol facilities we visited had no access to showers, despite the TEDS standards requiring that reasonable efforts be made to provide showers to children approaching 48 hours in detention.8 At these facilities, children had limited access to a change of clothes; Border Patrol had few spare clothes and no laundry facilities. While all facilities had infant formula, diapers, baby wipes, and juice and snacks for children, we observed that two facilities had not provided children access to hot meals as is required by the TEDS standards9 until the week we arrived.10 Instead, the children were fed sandwiches and snacks for their meals. Additionally, while Border Patrol tried to provide the least restrictive setting available for children (e.g., by leaving holding room doors open), the limited space for medical isolation resulted in some UACs and families being held in closed cells.

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Figure 1. Overcrowding of families observed by OIG on June 10, 2019, at Border Patrol’s McAllen, TX, Station. Source: OIG

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Figure 2. Overcrowding of families observed by OIG on June 11, 2019, at Border Patrol’s McAllen, TX, Centralized Processing Center. Source: OIG

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Figure 3. Overcrowding of families observed by OIG on June 11, 2019, at Border Patrol’s Weslaco, TX, Station. Source: OIG

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In the Border Patrol facilities we visited, we also observed serious overcrowding and prolonged detention among adult detainees. TEDS provides that under no circumstances should the maximum [cell] occupancy rate, as set by the fire marshal, be exceeded.11 However, at one facility, some single adults were held in standing room only conditions for a week and at another, some single adults were held more than a month in overcrowded cells (see figures 4 and 5).

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Figure 5. Fifty-one adult females held in a cell designated for male juveniles with a capacity for 40 (left), and 71 adult males held in a cell designated for adult females with a capacity for 41 (right), observed by OIG on June 12, 2019, at Border Patrol’s Fort Brown Station. Source: OIG

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In these overcrowded conditions, CBP was unable to meet TEDS standards. For example, although TEDS standards require CBP to make a reasonable effort to provide a shower for adults after 72 hours,12 most single adults had not had a shower in CBP custody despite several being held for as long as a month. At some facilities, Border Patrol was giving detainees wet-wipes to maintain personal hygiene. Most single adult detainees were wearing the clothes they arrived in days, weeks, and even up to a month prior. Further, although TEDS standards require agents to remain cognizant of detainees’ religious and other dietary restrictions,13 many single adults had been receiving only bologna sandwiches. Some detainees on this diet were becoming constipated and required medical attention.14

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I put some significant effort into getting this from the horse's mouth. Are you too chickenshit to read it?

The New Trump Administration Line: Many of Those Migrant Families Aren’t Actually Families – Mother Jones

All that is probably because of the failure of Congress to appropriate the necessary funds to improve facilities. Why isn't that mentioned?Also, there is no mention of the fact that there are organizations putting together these gigantic caravans to come here and overwhelm our facilities, and they must have lots of money for that purpose since they have to sustain the people on the trek here. Why aren't they continuing their help now that they're here? Gosh, I wonder why. Not.This information is presented as simple fact but there are facts behind the facts that aren't getting included, which of course makes it look like Trump and his people are evil, that's the whole point, and of course to railroad the nation into accepting a political position most oppose.And I keep hearing how conditions under Obama were just as bad. Why isn't that mentioned? Oh never mind I know why. Everything about this is political but it's not treated as political, it's just supposed to be taken it as simple fact, no context, no explanation.How can anything by Mother Jones or CNN be taken seriously?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

We should all read Mark Levin's Unfreedom of the Press Especially you all here. I've been hearing him read a lot of it on his program. It makes very clear why there's no point in reading the liberal press these days.Amazon has it at a big discount at the moment so I bought it though I have trouble reading a whole book these days. However, I expect it to be worth it for what I can read of it.He says the first chapter is on the site so you can read that much. Well, I read your post, so surely you can read that much.

So I guess I'm just supposed to accept that as fact, hm?

You can get away with saying I "hate the very concept of truth?"

edit: whoops got confused as to which message you were replying too.Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

Confinement conditions under Obama were nowhere nearly as bad.The administration failed to see the obvious need for funds early enough.How can the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General be trusted? How can photographs be trusted? How can the testimony of Border Patrol agents be trusted? Do you need a hint?There is no evidence of organizations putting caravans together.But your whole message reeks of your hate and your pathetic attempts to avoid the point. The point is the conditions on the border, not whether they could have been avoided, or who is at fault for it. ARE THOSE CONDITIONS OF CONFINEMENT ACCEPTABLE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? It's apparent your answer is an enthusiastic YES!! We should separate families without tracking them for reuniting. We should take a four-month-old infant from his father. We should bring two-year olds into court without a lawyer and ask them to defend themselves. We should feed them only baloney sandwiches. We should force people to go for weeks without a change of clothes or a shower. We should force them to "sleep" standing up. We should confiscate their desperately needed medications and often not replace them. I'm sure you'd love to be able to "live" in the conditions in those photos, right?Do you have any answer to those two questions?It's unspeakably cruel, but the cruelty is the point. It's intended as a deterrent.I weep for us.

The shoe fits.

You are two of a kind.