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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I wish I could trust any of those any more.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
never mind.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Tell you what. Write to Trump and your representatives about the conditions in the McAllen facility, as I proposed doing concerning Hong Kong. Instead of battering me about these things, let authorities know who might have some ability to deal with them. Get others to join you. Nobody was much interested in my proposal but at EvC you should have more success with this one. I suspect of course you'd rather hate me instead.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Let anarchy reign. Sad to think that and Leftist rule are the only options these days. Not that I think the Republicans are any great alternative either. Time to throw in the towel I guess.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
All you guys who "care" so much about the children are doing nothing but trying to find scapegoats it seems to me. Why are you beating me up about it instead of working on finding solutions? I don't get why it keeps being ignored but if there is a problem there has to be a cause of the problem and isn't that where you have to start? You are talking about ONE facility. There are others, why are they being left out of the discussion? What is the cause of the problem at this one facility?
Come on, there have to be causes. Why can they only come up with inadequate food? Are they hiding the hot meals somewhere? Why can't they give the people showers? Is it a matter of too little staff? What IS the problem? Come on. Just complaining and calling people names aren't a solution. Unless all you really want to do is make yourself sound righteous and everybody else evil, which does often seem to be the main plan on the Left. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah, sure, very reasonable, except that facts can be selected to give a particular impression while the overall context or many other facts are left out, and in the case of the Left it is SO clear that their main objective is calling people names that ought to raise red flags already. It's just racism or cruelty or whatever. What's wrong with the idea of ordinary Americans taking the needed supplies to the people in the facility if that is really what you care about? What's wrong with badgering the authorities about the problems until they are forced to do something? Why aren't the other detention facilities mentioned? Is it because they don't have such problems and if not why not? Overcrowding is first of all due to the fact that too many people are crashing the border. What are you going to do about that? Nobody really seems to want to address that at all, just pretend this is our problem and our failure. There's a LOT to think about here but nobody wants to think about it, just play on emotions and above all find a Bad Guy to point the finger at. And we know who that is, and everbody who defends him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Forgive me, but as I said, I have no reason to trust any particular set of "facts" such as these you are giving. The bias is too thick. Yes I'm defending the administration, against an avalanche of fake news and hatreds. Now you just want me to accept your "facts?" Sorry, there's a lot more going on here.
However, just from what you said it's pretty obvious that the former plan was ridiculous and a change was needed. So it has problems of its own. So work on THOSE problems. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of COURSE Congress was opposed to the policy. Of COURSE they are withholding the funds, because that makes TRUMP look bad which is the primary objective of everybody on the Left. I've suggested that it's a matter of inadequate funding and everybody here has said no that's not the reason. At least you are saying it is.
Trump is doing something sensible and you defend his opponents. And you want me to see the sense in YOUR position? Scheduling a hearing that you know nobody is going to show up for is a sensible thing to do? Releasing people into the country against the wishes of a great number of citizens is a sensible thing to do? But of course an attempt to stop that kind of irrationality is what gets attacked. But thanks for the explanation, that's more than anyone else here offrered. At least it is an explanation. However, as I noted earlier, the problems with inadequate food and other services are dated back to 2015 and 16 so your explanation isn't really the explanation. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Acceptable? No.
But nothing you are saying has even an aim of doing anything about it. Really all you seem to want to do is have something to accuse me of because I raise other questions you ignore. Do YOU really care about the conditions there? Then why are you spending all your time trying to find someone here to blame for them? Thanks to Percy's post I'm back to the position that we need to be on Congress' case to provide the funds to meet the needs you are complaing are not being met. You all denied funding was the problem and now it's been confirmed that it is. So badger your representatives. Oh right. You'd rather point the finger at Trump, you'd rather accuse me of not caring about people. Sure, that's the real objective of the Left as I keep saying. If you really cared about the people you'd be doing something that could help them. Accusing me isn't going to do anything to help them. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Interesting. Michael Savage keeps saying that it's Catholic Charities and similar Baptist groups that are responsible for flooding the country with illegal aliens.
The problem really is that the sensible government solutions are thwarted. Anything that controls the numbers of people coming into the country, or sets the standards for them, is thwarted. If it's true as Percy says that Trump has ended the "catch and release" policy, which I hadn't heard, that's a step in the direction of administrative sanity, but not to hear those on the Left talk about it, who WANT the country to be overrun with illegal aliens no matter what effect that has on Americans. Actual solutions would involve STOPPING THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SOUTH in the first place. A lot of it IS engineered by enemies of America, who tell the people they will be welcome here and finance their trip. Trump got Mexico to make some efforts at their southern border. That's a start. Then we need some kind of plan to stop them at OUR border. But Congress opposes any such ideas. Anyway thanks for the heads up about Catholic Charities. They aren't the friend of America.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No. The primary problem is NOT "barbaric and inhumane treatment of migrants" it's the lack of measures to prevent their coming here in the first place. But the mistreatment is due to the lack of funding needed to deal with them and that's the fault of the Leftist Congress. So if you want to focus on that problem, take it to them. And then you do need to address what IS the primary problem, which is their coming here in the first place. And I haven't even mentioned the role of the drug cartels, and the human traffickers, the raping of the women along the way and other problems that you are ignoring.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Selected facts aren't very convincing. You are always going to spin it your way and then bash me if I don't buy your spin.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Percy said Congress withheld the funds. Why should I believe you?
And of course like a good Leftie all you REALLY care about is accusing me of being barbaric and inhumane, and that kind of undermines anything else you want to say. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
*I'm* avoiding the topic of the conditions? What am I supposed to do about them? I made some suggestions, you ignored them. I'm trying to find out why the problems exist. YOU have been avoiding THAT subject, or making insinuations I'm not buying. Percy offered an explanation, you deny his explanation. Trump is obviously trying to do something sensible, you and others are obviously trying to thwart him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, the solution is not to make the entry legal. The solution is to have rational standards in place for admitting people we want to admit. And any sensible nation has that, and we would too if it weren't for the irrational ones who keep fighting it.
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