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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
AZPaul3 writes: The Democrats are out to get him. I guess I'd want to add some reasons. I think those unhappy with Trump would say they're concerned about the threats he poses to the country, its Democratic institutions, the rule of law, our standing in the world, morality, fairness, mom and apple pie.
If he loses? Then the rest of the legal system gets to rip him apart. He is about to lose his fortune, his properties, his now tarnished name, all of it. By the time his enemies (in business and in law) get through with him . they may never be through with him. Your boy is toast as soon as he loses his presidential shield. That’s how much he’s made people hate him. Yeah, that seems likely. When all that was known about him was that he was a flamboyant real estate developer and TV personality then he was safe, but his actions in office have brought so much scrutiny and so much is known now that he'll likely spend the rest of his life in court. Civil suits will take his fortune (the small fortune that exists in reality, not the billions he brags about), and even prison seems possible. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actions in office? They were threatening to impeach him BEFORE he was in office.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Faith writes: Actions in office? They were threatening to impeach him BEFORE he was in office. I don't know which "they" you are talking about, since both houses of Congress were controlled by Republicans his first 2 years. And he went right ahead and committed multiple crimes, some in plain sight of everyone and is daring them to impeach him now. If he was innocent he would insist on Mueller testifying and would release his tax returns. That's how smart he is, spends a life as a cheap con man and tax fraud and then run for President, and thinks no one is going to investigate and uncover who he is. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I just remember calls for impeachment before he was in office. Individual voices. Maxine Waters for one.
He's an innocent man. He's done nothing criminal at all. He acts llke an innocent man too. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Tanypteryx writes: Faith writes:
I don't know which "they" you are talking about, since both houses of Congress were controlled by Republicans his first 2 years. Actions in office? They were threatening to impeach him BEFORE he was in office. About the timing of the first calls for impeachment, there may be some misremembering involved since they came so soon after Trump took office. From the Wikipedia entry on Maxine Waters:
quote: The source of the misinformation might also be conservative opinion programs. Fox News gets most things right, while their opinion programs like Hannity and Carlson and so forth are full of misinformation. That Trump is inching closer to impeachment (it's his own actions that are driving it) is no surprise. Most who had the measure of the man couldn't imagine him making it through four years without committing a number of impeachable offenses. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
WHY ON EARTH THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION AT ALL SINCE INVESTIGATING THE CLAIM OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR IS SUPPOSEDLY THE WHOLE POINT OF SUCH AN INVESTIGATION.
Mueller investigated criminal behavior. That was the point.
With all the innuendo, however, insinuating criminality where he'd found none,
No innuendo. Facts. Undeniable criminal behavior. And a policy that Mueller felt prevented him from acting on that undeniable criminal behavior. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
McConnell would never allow a trial in the Senate. But impeachment could bring out many more incriminating facts that would sway some undecideds without affecting Faith and her ilk at all.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Actions in office? They were threatening to impeach him BEFORE he was in office.
Nope. You are confusing that with the Republican's stated intent to impeach Hillary before she took office. ABE: Waters did say that *IF* Trump were found to be guilty of some of what people were accusing him of he should be impeached.
ABE 2: Some Republicans are discussing their plans for President Clinton ” starting with impeachment quote: Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Can't you just paraphrase the main points?
I think I fixed the link.
quote:All direct quotes. ABE in fact NAFTA, which is still in force, forbids these tariffs. But Trump is hell-bent on convincing the world that the US cannot be trusted to honor commitments.
it seems worth it to me to apply some kind of pressure on Mexico to stop the flood of illegals.
Legal asylum seekers mostly. What do you expect Mexico to do in a month? In two? In six? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
what criminal charge was brought against clinton?
One was obstruction of justice. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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He acts llke an innocent man too. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But the justice system is not based on "any doubt at all". It's supposedly based on "reasonable doubt' and there was no reasonable doubt, apparently, in the cases I mentioned. In reality, of course, the justice system is based very much on emotion rather than reason - which is why there is so much racism in the justice system.
Yes, the wrongful convictions are certainly a strong reason to reject the death penalty where there is any doubt at all. Faith writes:
Not according to the Bible:
... in principle it is right to punish murderers by death.quote: quote: Izquierdo.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
was he charged criminally, or was that a impeachment charge?
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Impeachment.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes I know beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard for finding a person guilty. My point was that since there have been so many mistakes made, finding innocent people guilty, that for the death penalty we should be holding out for no doubt at all.
You left out what God said to Noah after the Flood: that whoever kills a man shall be killed by man, because God made man in His image. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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